DODGERS The KERSHAW Thread

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  1. carolinabluedodger

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    He confused you, not me. He said what I said, the offense is worse than the pitching.
     
  2. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    meh
    they both suck
     
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  3. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    kershaw's era 1.67
    rest of the staff 4.17
    7 games over .500 in games kersh starts
    9 games under in the ones he doesn't
    these dodgers are a last place team without him

    Clayton Kershaw is better than you think
    ESPN Stats & Information — 30 minutes ago

    Clayton Kershaw has won three of the past five National League Cy Young Awards and hasn’t finished outside the top three in voting since 2010. At 28 years old this season, he may actually be having his best season yet and is cementing his name as one of baseball’s greatest pitchers of all time.

    This season

    Kershaw has six straight starts with at least 10 strikeouts and one walk or fewer, the longest streak of its kind since 1900. Only four other pitchers in baseball this season have multiple such starts and none did it in consecutive starts.

    Kershaw has 88 strikeouts and just four walks this season. No pitcher has had even 80 strikeouts before getting his fifth walk of the season since the mound was moved to 60 feet, 6 inches from the plate in 1893.

    There are 106 pitchers this season who have walked four batters in a game. Including last year's Cy Young winners -- Jake Arrieta and Dallas Keuchel -- who have done it three times each.

    This month, Kershaw has 48 strikeouts and one walk. That's four times better than the next-best strikeout-to-walk ratio this month (Colby Lewis at 12-to-1).

    Kershaw is on pace for more than 300 strikeouts and fewer than 50 walks, something that's only been done by three pitchers in major-league history: Pedro Martinez in 1999, Curt Schilling in 2002 and Kershaw last season.

    Career impact

    Kershaw's Adjusted ERA is 157 (it adjusts for ballpark and compares to the rest of the league, where 100 is average and higher is better). That’s the best Adjusted ERA in major league history (minimum 1,500 IP).

    Kershaw has 10 starts in his career with 10 strikeouts, no walks and no more than one run allowed. Only four pitchers have done that more often since the mound was moved to its current distance in 1893.

    The 10 hitters who have faced him the most have combined to hit .220 and slug .303 against him, with four times as many strikeouts as walks. That's roughly equivalent to Bob Gibson's career line as a hitter.

    Kershaw has six wins and four walks this season. Entering Sunday, there’s one other pitcher who has six wins and four walks. That’s Erasmo Ramirez, who has pitched 35 innings. Kershaw has thrown 70.

    Kershaw already has 88 strikeouts this season. Mike Pelfrey had 86 strikeouts total in his 30 starts last season.

    Kershaw has a 34.8 strikeout percentage as a pitcher -- and a 29.2 strikeout percentage as a hitter.

    Along those same lines, Kershaw has a .208 OBP as a hitter this year. Opponents have a .198 OBP against him.​
     
  4. CapnTreee

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    Kershaw is a STUD.


    What else can you say?
     
  5. LA BUMS

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    Poor guy. Looks like another wasted season.
    But hey....at least we get to listen to Vin and watch him on TV:violin:
     
  6. irish

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    pretty cool

    Kershaw at top of Arrieta’s Watch List
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 16 minutes ago

    For better or worse, the argument over who is the best pitcher in baseball continues to rage on with each passing day and week. It’s a discussion largely dominated by aces Jake Arrieta and Clayton Kershaw, with the likes of Madison Bumgarner and Chris Sale among those on the periphery.

    The Chicago Cubs didn’t draw Kershaw during the four-game set at Wrigley Field, but the Dodgers weren’t quite as fortunate as Arrieta started Tuesday’s game. He had eight strikeouts, four walks and allowed two hits over seven scoreless innings.

    Arrieta exited with the game locked in a scoreless tie, in large part due to Scott Kazmir matching the Cubs’ right-hander. The Dodgers scored five runs on the Cubs’ bullpen to snap their 23-game winning streak in Arrieta starts.

    Although Kershaw did not make a start in Chicago, he’s at the top of Arrieta’s list of pitchers he watches, according to ESPN’s Jesse Rogers:

    “There’s very few guys on my list of pitchers who, if they’re pitching, I’ll stop and watch. And he’s No. 1 on the list,” Arrieta said Monday. “Out of respect of how well he can mix four-plus pitches.”

    After finishing first and third, respectively, in voting for the 2015 National League Cy Young, Arrieta and Kershaw are headed down a two-horse race for the award this season. Kershaw leads the Majors in WAR (3.8), WAR for pitchers (3.5), ERA (1.56), WHIP (0.65) and strikeouts (105), among other categories.

    Arrieta nearly pulled dead even in ERA, is tied for the Major League lead in wins (nine), winning percentage (100 percent), and leads in ERA+ (260) and hits per nine innings (5.04). Amid a rivalry of sorts developing between the two pitchers, Arrieta said Kershaw will be remembered as one of baseball’s greatest pitchers.​
     
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  7. CapnTreee

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    Nice to hear it from your peers
     
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  8. irish

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    agreed
    when you've got guys like bumgarner and arrieta -- regardless of how you may feel about them -- throwing compliments your way
    you're obviously doing something right
     
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  9. rube

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    Arrieta is a future dodger.
    I hope.
     
  10. MZA

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    We're gonna give him 25+ a year and he'll suck with us.
     
  11. CapnTreee

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    black cloud disciple ..:smh:
     
  12. Fall Winslow

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    No chance
     
  13. CapnTreee

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    beyond a pipe dream


    If GG's mindset is not to pay Greinke then why would they pay anyone but a bunch of 'bargain' DL rehabs??

    They're (Stan, Andrew) are stuck in a small market mindset as GG begins twisting the profitability screws
     
  14. Fall Winslow

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    They made a real attempt at Greinke, were in it until the very end when ARI showed up, just wouldn't go past a 5th year.
    Problem is Arrieta is also set to hit the FA market at 32yrs old, like Greinke, so they probably wouldn't offer more than 5yrs for him either.
    And they're not going past CK's AAV, out of respect for him, so they're basically capped at what they'll spend.
    Arrieta can't even get a 7yr deal done with the Cubs at 30yrs old, Cubs holding firm at 6.
    Next guy to be super-paid by LAD is either Jose Fernandez or Bryce Harper, younger stars
     
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    I doubt "respect" would keep the team from paying someone more than Kershaw, especially since it's Kershaw and the kind of guy he is. He'd actually love to see the team sign Arrietta to a higher AAV, since he has an opt-out clause the following year and it would guarantee him a new deal. Still, the team could hesitate to break Kershaw's salary 1) because it sets a higher bar for the aformentioned opt-out, and 2) Kershaw makes a lot of money. Either way, point stands, carry on.

    Unrelated: It's weird that Kershaw is the highest paid player in baseball and our team has the highest payroll in the majors given how "cheap" the FO is.
     
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    CK's next deal is already a guarantee, doesn't need Arrieta to set the bar because by then the Yankees will be ready to spend again and that's really all that LAD needs to push them to the most extreme figure.
    Only things that could stop it is injury and CK himself, as he did when LAD reportedly offered him a longer termed 300MM deal.
    It'll be much smoother for LAD after 2018, sign both CK and possibly Harper to around the same figure and reset the LAD bar all in one offseason.

    If Arrieta doesn't move off his 7yr demand he'll probably get a 5yr offer from the Cubs when he's finally free after 2017, so I imagine he'll move off the 7yr demand after this season and get a 6yr deal done with CHI that runs him through age 36.
    It's not just LAD, none of these teams want to pay big money for arms past the age of 36, it's almost a guaranteed loss at that point.
     
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    And knowing thay the team has a rookie manager and will be fielding a lot of young players with tons of its salary tied up in old vets and old debts signing max players was probably not in the cards for 2015.
    Maybe in 2017 when the team is settled and we are a legit contender they sign an arrieta or a harper.
     
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    Right, and the only thing that will make them do drastic things (for them) like sign 30MM/yr deals for proven, top line talent is a desperate need to rebuild credibility if the farm boys fail, and they already did this after Fuckface left with the two big trades. Sadly for us, we'd also have to endure a couple more awful years, lots of empty seats and pitchforks out for this to happen. Maybe another GM change too. The plus side is the payroll will be a lot lower after the CC and Ethier deals expire.

    All we can hope for is GuGGs ego coming into play after people start howling about 30+ non WS years.
     
  19. irish

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    we're not going to sign arrieta
    by the time he hits free agency he'll be 32
    the same age as zack (now)
    if they wouldn't cave for him, they won't cave for jake
     
  20. jpldodgers

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    Also weird that the team with the highest payroll in the majors is loaded with mediocre players.
     
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