DODGERS 2017 NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 2, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    10,087
    Trophy Points:
    198
    If people would have looked at his #'s in MiLB, they would have seen that he has these bursts where he's fantastic, but then.... his slumps are loooong and really rough.
     
  2. Fall Winslow

    Fall Winslow McRib

    Joined:
    Sep 2015
    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    228

    Sure, I mean he was in the middle of a bad run last run year in MiLB as well.
    The other kids were blowing past him on the LAD totem pole.
    I've seen some crazy stuff over the past year regarding some of these trades/potential trades with LAD's specs though..such as MFs comparing Urias to Billingsley and then the Pedro/Cotton ridiculousness.
    People mentioning Lambo and Bellinger in the same sentence..
     
    1988Blues and ColoradoKidWitGame like this.
  3. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,592
    Likes Received:
    21,800
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Kind of amazing, with those big muscular legs of his, that Puig hasn't been more hampered with hamstring problems...if they were real.
    Who the fuck knows anymore whether the shit we read is real, or fake or some new form of smoke and mirrors.
    Maybe the prestidigitators can scam up a world series win...that'd be cool.
     
    irish likes this.
  4. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    10,087
    Trophy Points:
    198
    I don't know if this already happened, but Ryan braun is expected to go on the 10 Day DL. This will take him into his 10-5 rights, so this makes a trade less likely. Multiple reports are stating that once that hits, Braun will accept a trade to only one club. Should be interesting to see how the Dodgers and Brewers go about this little game.
     
    BlueMouse likes this.
  5. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    41,883
    Likes Received:
    24,602
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Why would it make a trade less likely? I'd imagine that one club would be the Dodgers, no? Seems like this would only hurt the Brewers in negotiations and help the Dodgers.
    Or maybe I'm missing something?
     
    1988Blues, BlueMouse and rube like this.
  6. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 2013
    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    10,087
    Trophy Points:
    198
    I meant that a trade before his 10-5 rights kick in is less likely and yes, this really helps the Dodgers more than anything.
     
    1988Blues and BlueMouse like this.
  7. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    8,213
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Eactly now the Brewers only have one offer to choose from, ours. While we should not lowball we do not have to offer top shelf either.
    We should try to nab Villar now that Logan is out ;)
    And Eric Thames for 1B too and just deposit Bellinger in RF and have Puig give him Braun and Joc a day off every other game and maybe start vs lefties.
     
  8. Fall Winslow

    Fall Winslow McRib

    Joined:
    Sep 2015
    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Forget the 10/5 rights..the fact that Braun just missed a week of action, and flirted with the DL twice before that, combined with this apparent stint he´s about to have on the DL..all that health related shit should shut down a trade completely.
    The guy is walking wounded and already old for an OF.
    Gonna go through all this mess in order to deal for him and add that salary only for him to hit our DL..should just go ahead and bring Verdugo up.
    Puig can headline a deal for Colome down in Tampa instead
     
    LAdiablo, 1988Blues and irish like this.
  9. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    53,336
    Likes Received:
    40,991
    Trophy Points:
    278
    tend to agree
    i mean even if it were braun for puig straight up, we'd be giving up a lot of financial flexibility
    puig makes $17.4mm for this year and next combined
    braun makes $20mm each of the next four years (including 2021 buyout)
    and at 33, post ped's, he's likely only going to go on the decline
    last thing we need is to be saddled with another agon type situation
    even with toles and dre out and trayce sucking choad, we've got enough of's to compete
    and verdugo is waiting in the wings
    only way i'd do it was if braun were willing to renegotiate his contract with a mutual opt out after 2019
    but i'm not sure he would and/or the players association would allow it
     
    LAdiablo and Fall Winslow like this.
  10. Doughty8

    Doughty8 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    10,213
    Likes Received:
    4,243
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Giants one game from having the worst record in the majors. I'M LOVING IT!!!!!!! Make it last please.
     
    LAdiablo, 1988Blues and irish like this.
  11. LASports96

    LASports96 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 2013
    Messages:
    9,459
    Likes Received:
    3,659
    Trophy Points:
    173
    They already do
     
    1988Blues and Chiefdodgerslkrs24 like this.
  12. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    53,336
    Likes Received:
    40,991
    Trophy Points:
    278
    and the worst run differential too
    if we don't take at least 2/3 from those losers next week it will be a huge fail
     
  13. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    12,445
    Likes Received:
    14,570
    Trophy Points:
    198
    His early season injury status should lead to a cheaper price. It all depends if the Brewers call it a season and decide to play for the future - we might have a ways to go on that. The 10/5 rights kicking in probably remove any urgency they have, so it would move this to the deadline.

    I'm also under the impression Braun's injuries are minor at this point. His offensive numbers this year, even though he's been hurt, would make him one of the top hitters on our team. Bringing up Verdugo in the short term as a test makes sense, but expecting Verdugo to come in and give Braun-like production is unrealistic. There's also room for both in the OF if Gonzo never comes back full strength.
     
    ColoradoKidWitGame and THINKBLUE like this.
  14. Fall Winslow

    Fall Winslow McRib

    Joined:
    Sep 2015
    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    228

    Yeah, I suppose that'd make the pill easier to swallow, but Braun's actual availability would still be a big issue.
    I've always liked Braun a last resort type of option..like, if you're not ready to bring up the kids, get Braun.
    Always preferred the talented youth and the continuation of that process.
    And if you look at the way LAD approached the Braun situation last year, it was a last resort type of deal for them @ the waiver deadline and they ultimately passed.
    Now, a year later, kids like CB and Verdugo have of course moved up in terms of readiness, so it just fans the flame concerning the preferred mode of operation.
    And then there's the development of Chris Taylor, also fairly young, and the addition of Forsythe to consider as well.
    I mean once Adrian is back they can just go with Forsythe in LF, Taylor @ 2B, CB the cleanup man moves into RF and there you go..they don't even really have to go to Verdugo for the long term just yet.
    They can keep the Verdugo card in their back pocket if they so choose thanks to Taylor/Forsythe.
    Like you said, last thing we need is another Adrian situation..or CC, or Ethier.
     
    1988Blues and irish like this.
  15. Fall Winslow

    Fall Winslow McRib

    Joined:
    Sep 2015
    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    228

    If Braun's injuries are minor, why should that lead to a cheaper price? Milwaukee could just blow that talk off and say " nah, he's fine and that's why you want him. " There's no question that Braun can hit, but Verdugo's not even the same type of player, wouldn't be asked to lift the heart of the order so I don't see the connection. The slot in the order that you're looking at currently belongs to one Cody Bellinger.
     
  16. MZA

    MZA MODERATOR Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    11,849
    Likes Received:
    6,045
    Trophy Points:
    198
    You already know we're not.
     
    irish likes this.
  17. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    12,445
    Likes Received:
    14,570
    Trophy Points:
    198
    The biggest obstacle right now is that Milwaukee is having a decent season, and if they continue then all the Ryan Braun talk will be moot. I think the 10/5 rights and Milwaukee's record slow down talks for a while. If they decide to be sellers at the deadline, then any injury risk they see in Braun will make it more likely they want to deal him, it may be a small difference, but it surely comes into play.

    The connection between Braun and Verdugo was because you said instead of trading for Braun we should just bring up Verdugo. I was saying those moves aren't comparable. What I don't see is the connection between Bellinger and not needing another bat. There's no rule that a team can't benefit from 8 great hitters, and improving the 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th spot is nearly as beneficial as improving the 4th spot.
     
    THINKBLUE likes this.
  18. Fall Winslow

    Fall Winslow McRib

    Joined:
    Sep 2015
    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    228

    Ultimately, Braun's battles with injuries aren't something that just popped up this year. He hasn't been a 150+ game guy since 2012, so the lengthy history will have it's impact..had it's impact last year at the deadline. Availability is pretty important for the team that acquires a Braun.

    I see, but when I said to just bring up Verdugo it wasn't comparing Verdugo/Braun and what they bring. LAD is getting what they need from Braun in Bellinger right now. Verdugo's a kid that'd more than likely be going into Toles' role at the top of the lineup at some point, and Verdugo's also just much better than Braun from a defensive standpoint and would probably take RF, so it's a weird connection on a few fronts. And then, as I said as well, they don't even need to bring Verdugo up because of what they have in the additions of Taylor/Forsythe. Could they always use another bat? Of course, but they've scored a ton of runs since CB was called up and will only get better as an offense if Puig is ushered out of the lineup when Forsthye returns.
     
  19. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    41,883
    Likes Received:
    24,602
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Verdugo is a year younger than Bellinger and not close to the prospect that Cody is. His power has been declining with each promotion. That's not to say he won't be great one day. I think he will be. But I don't think he's ready for the big leagues just yet.

    That said, I'd love to see him up here. It's always exciting to see these young guys get an opportunity
     
  20. Fall Winslow

    Fall Winslow McRib

    Joined:
    Sep 2015
    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    228
    http://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...s-volatility-become-major-concerns/317145001/

    The funniest part of that piece was the thought that " time will do the trick for Braun " in terms of his injuries.
    Funny because in a general sense, time is actually working against Braun, as he turns 34 this year.
    But then Braun just goes on to admit in the piece that he can't run or throw right now..how in the hell does that help LAD?
    Does he just swing and hit and then somebody else runs for him like some old timer's league? Lol
    Does Joc cover CF and LF while Braun chills in the stands?
    Just like Adrian and Ethier, Braun's now at the age where these issues are going to linger and that's really that.
    So if he's a last resort again, fine, but LAD needs to see what they have in-house 1st..and right now they've scored plenty of runs since CB was called up, so there's that as well.
    I love the idea of ushering Puig out of the lineup, you know I do, but getting Baez out of the set up role would seem to be a bit more important right now.
     
    irish likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page