Personalities et al.

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  1. southerndodgerfan

    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    I am not sure how to go about talking about this topic. I have always felt that because we are a pretty regular and consistent group, any of us can start a topic (about anything) and it will be well received (within reason). However, this one is touchy.

    During today's game thread, words were exchanged between a few (I was one of the most vocal) and to be honest, I did not put much stock into it at the time. We all now that emotions run high during games and we quickly react and we move on. Some of us are prone to making outlandish and ridiculous statements as the mood takes us. I know that I do it on here because it is safe. I would rather show crazy with you guys than with my wife, kids, and neighbors. Also, to be honest, many times it is a gross over emphasis on whatever I am thinking. It is humorous and cathartic--most of the time.

    Others believe that such behavior is over-the-top and far too emotional. I get this. They see it as weakness or babyish to lose it over a game, play, or bad at-bat. They grow frustrated and we go frustrated. Both of us are trying to watch a game and both of us feel the other is lessening the game. I am not sure how to make the game thread good for both, but we must if only for the sake of others.

    There are a few other issues that others have pointed out. In my sig, I have the phrase "yes, I do know that much about baseball". It is arrogant, haughty, and probably a bit naive on my part. However, it goes with my personality. Despite this flaw, I make a point not to call people names are make fun of their suggestions. I do my best not to correct unless I feel the person would not mind or asks. There are those that do this. I am sure they do not mean to sound haughty or like a know-it-all but that is how it comes across. Perhaps if we are a little more careful with what we say to others, it would help the whole.

    I have no idea how this will be received. People could be like "yeah, I can see that" or they could be like "um SDF just needed to type for awhile". Either way, I thought it worth pointing out. I do not want my actions detracting from the baseball discussions here and I certainly do not want them to drive another member away. If they causes issue, my apologies. If they have not, give it time.
     
  2. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    I'm a well documented agree-er to the theory that people worry too much about other people, and that makes those people get sick of those people. lol

    It didn't use to be like this!

    And then any time someone cares, they are labeled a drama queen or are responded to with a sarcastic, aloof #_________. I mean, what happened to respecting someone's feelings?

    When I turn off my lap top or don't have my phone on me (I need to stop posting on my phone so much. It pisses people who are trying to talk to me in real life off), obviously none of this matters. We've all got our own REAL lives with problems and stuff. But it is cool to come on here and get along.

    I mean, Lynchgange threatened to beat the shit out of me and asked me to meet him at his house when I was like 16. lol. What if we both went the lair? AWKWARD :D
     
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  3. Shaw

    Shaw DSP Legend

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    It's a game thread. It catalogues our immediate reactions to situations. As long as we step back and take a rational look at the team after the game, then it's not a big deal.

    Although, to be honest, it does gets annoying when people go super hyperbolic and say stuff like "Player X should go kill himself!" But, I won't get my panties in a bunch over it. Getting frustrated and saying things like "Ugggh, this team sucks!" is a totally natural response when you're emotionally invested in the team (which, more or less defines a fan).

    No need for people to turn into armchair psychologists and spew out psychobabble either (I noticed some of that in the game thread...). Just respect each other!
     
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    i blame todays loss on sdf
     
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  5. southerndodgerfan

    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    Good post. Though I do wish Colletti would have a season ending hernia...thus allowing Kim Ng to take over....oh wait....
     
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    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    I did it. But, I also tipped the pitch to the catcher in the bottom of the ninth in the Oak/Gnat game.
     
  7. IBleedBlue15

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    Like I said in the GT, if you can't grasp the concept of people getting mad over sports on this site then don't post here.
     
  8. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    game threads should be disposable
    nothing said in a game thread should be held against you in a court of forum law
     
  9. VRP

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    This is getting rather annoying actually.

    I rarely take things seriously, the people here, along with those of you who post on PSD with me, and especially the people who follow me on Twitter can vouch for that, but those posts were just fucking stupid. Sorry to call it out like that, but they were.

    It makes you more of a fan to be irrational and act like the sky is falling when we're 13 games over .500 in June. Fucking please. Get a grip.
     
  10. VRP

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    Who isn't getting mad? Every one of us gets mad when we lose. There's a difference between getting mad and being irrational and stupid.
     
  11. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    I love all you guys.
     
  12. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Again, no one gets mad at anyone when its heat of the moment stuff. Everyone says everyone sucks, ranging from Clayton Kershaw to Ramon Troncoso. But no one can be sensitive to be called out by actions people are wanting that are not smart ones. You guys make it seem as if you mean absolutely nothing that is said in the GT, and that is not true. A lot of times its heat of the moment stuff. But for example, if someone is going to say (an example, that has never been said to avoid specific arguments): "Man, Kershaw doesn't have it anymore we should look if the Red Sox would want him for a trade"... That's not a heat of the moment thought, that's an action a person does want and someone else can easily argue against.

    The main point is this: Being in this position, without Matt fucking Kemp, without our starting 2B (who has hitting damn good), with others slumping, and with Bills doing bad, is an amazing position. I understand being mad at losing, fuck yeah it sucks.... but to be mad about it in a way where there should be a complete overhaul and completely negative is gonna call for arguments against. There's minimal ppl happy with the state of the team, and just cause some of us are happy about the position, doesn't mean we think this team is a .999 WP team or that we are satisfied with the current roster. It just means we don't think every player should be DFA'd, murdered, and what not.

    Nothing is ever personal, never, and I know most of us understand that. But also, don't act like you say whatever you want on the GT and you mean absolutely none of it. If someone says "I think Andre Ethier should be traded" more than once, it's not heat of the moment, it's your actual thought and a thought that should trigger debate. Don't get sensitive if someone opposes you, and if you meant it as heat of the moment it's easy to say "Ah, I don't actually want him gone its just frustrating to see him struggle" and boom, over.
     
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  13. VRP

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    I agree with everything Doyer said, he's more thoughtful about what he said than I was, as I tried that approach the last time this came up and it seemingly failed.

    I'm not going to apologize for not overreacting. If it makes you think I'm somehow less of a fan because I don't make emotional outbursts every time we lose, it's not my problem.
     
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    I hate everybody!
     
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    Questioning each others fan-hood is just stupid. Only true fans would spend time on this site discussing this baseball team as much as we do. People react differently and that's the way it is.

    People rag on players others think are ok...that's normal. I used to get into it with BZ over Loney all the time. Now Loney has unfortunetely made that a mute debate really. I wish he got better not worse.
    I'm tired of people bitching about Rivera. I'm happy with him on our team. He makes us better than we would be without him IMO. All week this has went on, yet the dude hit like .421 or some shit. It happens. I try not to get to pissed off because I realize we all have opinions on players and what we expect from them. We debate...it's what this site is for.

    Just try not to get personal about it guys. That is the shit that will ruin this place and the good friendships we have created here. I like to think that this site is also good for those fans outside the area like southerndodgerfan, VRP, and bluezoo as a means to be connected to true Dodger fans since they are probobly uncommon where they are.

    If you think you've pissed someone off, back off a bit. If someone pisses you off, try to just be cool about it. If both parties make an attempt, it should be ok in the end.
     
  16. rube

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    anyone who get mad at people on the internet later feels dumb for doing it even if at the moment he is too much of a 'man' to admit it
    if you later feel dumb about something you did its because when you did it you were being dumb
     
  17. IBleedBlue15

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    I guess it really depends on what your take on "irrational" and "stupid" is.

    For example, you think it's stupid and irrational for people to hate on Adam Kennedy. I get your reasoning, but the guy isn't very good. That's why people hate on him. Whether he's the 1st player on the roster or the 25th, he's getting paid to play baseball; and he hasn't been very good for us. Totally normal.

    Also, no matter how poorly Bills pitches, there are people that still get their panties in a bunch for people shit talking him. I think it's irrational and stupid to keep ignoring the issue to not realize that something is seriously wrong with the guy.

    You guys say this all the time but there are very little examples to back up your claims. Sure, someone will say something dumb once in awhile, but I've never noticed a re-occurring issue.
     
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  18. irish

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    this is an epic post :clap:
     
  19. chris

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    I think some people overreact on both sides of the spectrum. It'll be like "Fuck this team!! goddamnit!" and then someone else will be "I called this, not surprised" and that's completely fine. is it irrational? sure. is it juvenile and childish. probably. but it's a game. this stuff is never going to stop. everybody thinks they know more than everyone else. VRP knows more about sabermetrics than I do. Shaw's gonna be a fucking lawyer. Doyer is the cute one. we all have our roles

    when the dodgers got killed by the phills in 08 and 09 I wanted to cry. seriously
    and when they finally win I will bawl like a little girl. irrational?



    when we sweep the Giants all this will be fine, don't worry guys.
     
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  20. irish

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    not at all
     

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