Dodgers counting on healthy Crawford

So you disagree with my opinion? But it's my opinion.

What this fails to compare is a first baseman with a first baseman and the two injury prone players with each other. Our first baseman is younger and still hitting with power while is upper cut is hurting his average as he is wrong side of thirty. Yours has a bad shoulder and his power is gone and hasn't recovered since it was operated on. His average was maintained by slapping balls the other way and bouncing them off the green monster, routine outs in the no west. He has no playoff experience and its not all San Diego's fault, it's not all his fault but that's his track record and when he gets pissy he texts ownership and calls out management. Why not call the fucking licker room? It was his second season underachieving in Boston and under his second manager there. Defensively, it's a wash, both are damn good.

Arod and cc can't get or stay healthy. Arod can play DH and I'm taking him over cc in that role anytime. CC's game is based largely on speed and LA has his declining years locked up. Arod is just old but again, his game will be far more helped in the DH role than crawfords will as rest will help a hitter more than a runner, imo.

Han ram is simply an ass clown i don't want around my team and we have no where to put him anyway. Im taking jeter and (I cant believe im saying this) youk over him. Both those are gamers and han ram cant hold a candle to their effort.

I dont know what the dodgers real limit on payroll is, i don't think anyone does but I do know you only have a limited number of roster spots. looking into the future you have a number of players locked up for too long IMO on contracts that wont be easily moved. The Yankees have 3 beyond 2014 The Dodgers have 7 for 2017

 

Let's not play that role now. You said that you would not take ANY contract that we picked up from Boston over Aroid or Texiera. If you would rather have Aroid than AGon, I cannot help you. Again, your opinion. The latter bolded quote is your version of selective choosing. You should add the caveat that the average age of the yankees is around 34. Meanwhile, we are about 5 years younger. So, your thought that we have the same type players locked up is not exactly forthright. The left side of your infield and your closer will be featured in a AARP commercial within the next few.
People are pissed because the Dodgers went out and got the best talent available. I think most yankee fans complaining are pissed because there is a new game in town and that game seems to be getting attention. Buying a championship does not work. Hell, you people proved that by sucking off the Marlins with a payroll over ten times theirs. However, given the market and the availability of starters and position players, the Dodgers were able to remake a team without having to hope to win the bidding on more than just one or two. Look at the FA class of this year. Now, check next years. Now, check the year after. The cupboard is bare.

 

Yeah even if he played the best he ever played he's not worth close to what he's getting paid. 140+ million for this guy? Eeek.

 

I stand by not wanting any of the malcontent, underachievers you got. Sorry, they were available for little return for a reason.

ANd you didn't get the best talent available. you just got a bigger payroll

Hamilton and Upton are better than Crawford, Josh went cross town and justin is still being shopped.
Lohse and Sanchez are better than Beckett is these days. Haren could almost even get in that discussion.
Soriano is better than League
Laroche could have been had for less money and years than Agon
Stephen Drew while risky, isn't more of a risk than Han ram and has a far better attitude, signed for less $ and years

Fact is, a group of investors combined with Ned got in over their head and chose do something quicker instead of do it better. You could have had a better team and still kept your prospects and hope one or two pan out.

The Yanklees are old, no argument but aside of arod, not locked up
Jeter
Youk
Kuroda
Petitte
Rivera
Suzuki......all on one year deals.

Yes, the FA list in the next isn't one to brag about but there is talent there and if it a it doesn't 5-8 years to get those guys, I'll be happy as a pig in shit plugging in some of those names should the above listed yankees not be viable next year.

 

gtfo homo

 

So, you are stating that you would rather take a chance on having Hamilton, Laroche, and Drew in the NL WEST over what we got? First, Hamilton is as big a question as Crawford. Physically he is in better shape (though he shows flashes of breaking down) but mentally that dude is one bender away from driving his truck into the Pacific. Laroche was destined to be back in the a Nats uniform. Both sides were posturing. Drew? You think Crawford is brittle? Drew is turning into his older brother at a record pace. Now, time for some honesty.
You choose for the next three years:

Ellis/Ethier/Hamilton/Laroche/Kemp/Drew/Cruz/Ellis/P
Ellis/Crawford/Kemp/AGon/Hanley/Ethier/Cruz/Ellis/P

And try to remember, we do not have the magical DH--we actually believe in that whole "complete player" thing.

 

Whaaaaaa, I can't think of anything to say so I'll toss around insults.

If you got nothing to say stfu.

 

Hamilton is the best player mentioned in this thread besides Upton. He may be mentally weak so just have him room with Greinke

Loroche could have been bought away from wash and still come in far under agon

Drew was a reach but remember we're talking about a replacement for Han ram, the bar statistically and mentally is set pretty low.

I do think that's a better lineup if for nothing other than recent success and removal of clubhouse cancers.

Complete player? Lets not pretend looking at three strikes and sitting down is a complete player. That said, I don't care for the DH either but that's the rules the Yankees play with, they can't control it and I was speaking for building a team under the rules we play with.

 

I have to disagree on Hamilton. His numbers have been great when he played. However, he has consistently illustrated that given enough time, he tends to implode. Do I think the guy is a clubhouse cancer? No. I think he has demons and occasionally becomes overly selfish and manipulative. On the other hand, you say that AGon is a clubhouse cancer. He sent a text message. Remember when he was playing with SD? He knew he was better than the team he was on. Did he bitch? No. Did he ask for a trade? No. He actually seemed more like Hoffman. He did his part and hoped management would do theirs.

Is Beckett a headcase? Perhaps. Will he revert? Perhaps. However, we have a pretty nice little deal with him for a short amount of time. He needs good numbers for that final contract. Where else can he be slotted as the number 3 or 4, get hitters who can put up numbers to keep him in the game, and get to pitch in a DS type stadium? I think this one will be fine. Hanley? I wonder if his attitude had anything to do with the fact that the Marlins asked him to move to third when they signed Reyes. Does he have attitude? Absolutely. I hear that guy Youk is no picnic to work with either. Should I mention Arod and his cup of coffee?

You mention Laroche being stolen from Washington and given a better deal. Maybe. Consider this: Laroche was not a guarantee. AGon was. Laroche would have cost a pick. AGon did not. I think perhaps people are just not getting it. We have money. You remember what that is like, right? We want to win now. You remember those days, huh? We BOUGHT talent so that we did not have to spend on draft picks. Yes, we traded some talent for the Boston package. However, imagine what AGon would have cost in terms of prospects if we had not agreed to be saddled with Crawford's contract. And, the bonus is that if Crawford looks good, we spent money on a player who can win us some games. If not, we blew some cash to get an AS first baseman who has hit in the NL West before.

You continue to mention Upton. Upton has talent. Upton is also a headcase. Upton also plays for a divisional rival. Look at the package that Seattle offered. The Dodgers could not come close. We would have to offer that PLUS two more. No question. He is not even in the realm of possibility.

This thread has become humorous. A yankee fan. The evil empire. They who bought many-a-team. They who simply overpaid to ensure others could not acqure players. A fan of that team is lecturing the Dodgers on good business practices and overvaluing players. Please. We play each other this year. We can just see who comes out on top then. We will even give you home field advantage. That way, Arod can DH.

 

forget it SDF... this guy is cherry picking his points... i was done reading when he compared Hamilton and Greinke... yeah, like anxiety is the same as being a powder nose...

malcontent players? lets talk about Playoff Arod... oh, he was not malcontent, as he was passing around his phone to girls... and anyone who thinks that Jeter can repeat his 2012 is just foaming of the mouth...

the way I see it is this: send out Adrian and Beckett out to the FA market and see what they could get... I'm sure they would have been a lot more expensive than what the dodgers are taking... CC is just a big gamble, that if it pays off, the reward will be big...

the Yankees can lick my balls...

 

I still can't believe we took on that much money and gave up Rubby. Out of all the contracts, bullshit and Nick Punto's, that's the one that hurts for me. Fucking retarded.

 

Kasten said Crawford is 10 pounds lighter than last year fwiw

 

How can that be the one that bothers you? He's only owed $1.5M this year.

 

That was a great team..I still get bummed when I think of how they laid down to the Phillies. If only we had the pitching we have today.

 

Fucken Broxton.

 

That pic is definitely in the DSP Hall of Fame.