Andre Ethier Trade Speculation Thread

what about playing Uribe at 3B???? that could work...

 

I hope it's just rumors, quite frankly. Unless it's a horse's head in bed kinda thing, where it's an offer we can't refuse.
And I still think Dee Gordon needs another year of looking at. He has spectacular potential, and getting all giddy about moving him would be a classic BB and typical LAD mitae at this time. Dee Gordon could be a truly great leadoff hitter for years. I know everyone loves White....but I feel he was handled poorly in the minors regarding his shortcomings. You can't salivate over his strengths and totally overlook his glaring weaknesses. Bad management, IMO.
Ramirez has the worst form I think I've ever seen at SS, and is a defensive liability. I guess we can't have too many of them, because defense counts so much, no matter what kind of offense a team may have.
I know I'm an Luis Cruz fan, but I wouldn't want to see him go either. I'm OK with him as a super sub though, as long as he gets his ABs.

 

Send Dee to the minors, let him learn CF. He can make all the ridiculous throws he likes, who gives a shit. I bet you he could cover and absolute fuckload of ground.

 

Well as you saw from that picture, he has ridiculous muscles. The other reasons I believe he is as follows...

1. He's from Cuba. Do they even have rules against PEDs there? Canseco was Cuban and is the poster child.
2. He's a latin player and far too many other Latin players seem to get caught. Is it because they don't have as much respect for the history of this U.S. game or is it because they care more about the money than the game or their health? I mean I don't blame them, they usually come from poverty and can become millionaires. I'd do it too.
3. That Cuban player in Oakland looks like a user also, and since there's only 3 cuban power hitters I can think of in the game, I'm lumping them together. They all look like they use roids and we all know one did it for sure. I like my chances.
4. Anytime a player is above and beyond his peers, I'm suspicious due to the amount of players that have been caught.
5. I'm racist.
6. Most great players probably use them. See #4.
7. I'd be a hypocrite to only accuse other team's players like Scutaro and Sandoval for cheating. I have to pick some Dodgers, he's the most likely due to the 6 reasons above.
8. I have no faith in anything anymore.
9. I'm a grouchy old man now.
10. I'm jealous of baseball players, especially the good ones. I wish I could get paid to play.

And for the record, I never said it was a fact...I DID say "probably".

 

Not bad idea at all...never thought of that. His athleticism is simply spectacular.
But , you know people would say: "CF is a power position...he doesn't fit the bill", or something like that. It is the James Loney thing.
And I still think we will see our fair amount of ridiculous throws from Hanley this year, too. Lots of speedy opponents beating out his throw due to the 3 second transfer from glove to throwing hand.

 

I don't consider it a power position, their were a slew of guys who hit less than 10 HRs playing CF as their primary position.

Angel Pagan
Alejandro De Aza
Michael Brantley
Coco Crisp
Michael Bourn
Denard Span
Cameron Maybin
Ben Revere
Jon Jay

Just to name a few.

 

Would you guys be open to trading Ethier for lets say Mike Olt. And then sign Swisher

I don't really like Olt but TX is def not parting with Profar or Andrus for Andre Ethier

 

Absolutely, but they would likely have to eat a nice chunk of that salary to get him.

 

I'd much prefer profar but I'd take Olt. Also, I'd rather sign Bourn to a 2 year contract than sign Swisher.

 

They wouldn't trade them for J-Up who is like 5-6 years younger

 

Sure, when the current list is a bunch of basic garbage like this, I agree with you. It doesn't mean a thing to me, I just think we would hear that from some people...if we don't, fab. I also don't think where you get the power from matters at all, personally....as long as you get it.
I guess my problem is I go back to Duke Snider, Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle. And Matt Kemp.
Just to name a few.
It was a power position.

 

Sure, even now their are a few elite power hitters playing CF: Trout, McCutchen, Kemp, Granderson, Ellsbury (when healthy), Harper, and Adam Jones. But more often than not, they move these big power-hitters to the corners.

 

You are right on #5, #8, #9 and #10. Everything else is close to crazy talk.

Canseco is not like Puig Cuban. I think he grew up in the states. Cuban baseball is recognized as a big force worldwide, and they rule their players by the Olympic drug testing.

And yes, the last few players caught are latin (actually, all dominicans), but i dont recall Clemens, Bonds, McG, Gagne or LoDuca having big latin roots.

 

Relax

 

Im relaxed... Why would you think im not?

 

You're beeing mean.

 

LOL, whatever...you watch Puig and 1 of 2 things will occur.
1)He will shrivel up physically.
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2)He will get caught for PED usage.

And want to talk crazy talk?
"Cuban baseball is recognized as a big force worldwide, and they rule their players by the Olympic drug testing."
Give me a fucking break. Olympic Drug testing, LOL yeah that's proof. So is world cycling.

There is like 4 Cuban players I can think of, Canseco, Palmero, Puig, and Cespedes. 2 are proven-known users and the other 2 look like it on the surface. LOL, what are the odds?
...and I'm the crazy talking one eh? You blind man?

As for your defense of latin cheaters. Those players you named never were suspended for PED use, again not even sure why you posted those guys to prove me wrong about Puig. You respond as though I said U.S. born players never use them...and that is lame, obviously that is not the case. You're probably a bit oversensitive because you are Puerto Rican or some shit like that. Get over it, it's nothing personal.

The players who have been suspended is the most telling since it's actually against the rules and is tested for now, here's some common names of recent years and look how many repeat offenders there are.... Neifi Perez x2, Manny x2, Carlos Ruiz x2, Mota x2, Melky Cabrera, JC Romero, Bartolo Colon, Edinsin Volquez, Jose Guillen just to name a few.

Again, I can understand why and like I said, I'd do it too.

 

He's being ignorant, blind, and overprotective of the latin players.

 

Again, Canseco and Palmeiro are Cubans, but only cuz they were born there. They left Cuba when they were really young and they developed as players (and yes, learned about PEDs) in the US. But there are some other Cuban (and I mean real Cubans) currently playing, like Chapman, Kendrys and Livan.

I posted those names just to remind you that the biggest names related to PED arent all latin. Somethinng i found

"Of the 67 players suspended, 29 were from the United States, 20 from the Dominican Republic, 11 from Venezuela, three from Cuba, two each from Puerto Rico, and Mexico, and one each from Australia, Colombia, Japan, and Spain."

Im not defending cheaters, but to label a latin player as a cheater just because he's latin is wrong, and that's what I'm against of.

 

I dont see how. Actually I'm agreeing with him in 40% of his points...