Kemp has torn Labrum, Kershaw doesn't need surgery.

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by chris, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. BigDaddyKaine

    BigDaddyKaine DSP Legend

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    and the hits just keep on coming. I wonder what it's like to have good luck.
     
  2. MZA

    MZA MODERATOR Staff Member

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    Become a Cardinals fan.
     
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  3. BigDaddyKaine

    BigDaddyKaine DSP Legend

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    Yea, that's just not an option lol
     
  4. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    couldn't have said it any better
     
  5. IBleedBlue15

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    We can survive without Matt for the first month but I'm so done with the Dodgers medical staff letting him do whatever the fuck he wants. It's common sense Matt. If you're hurt, don't play. The baseball season is like 5-6 months long.
     
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  6. F YOUK

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    I'm confused.
    I've read in this forum that the team needs chemistry and next year hopefully the pieces will come together and be the team that can win it all.
    Kemp hustles, gets hurt and bashed for going all out.
    If this isn't the kind of player you want to see because he runs the chance of getting hurt, trade him to the yankees, he's exactly the kind of guy I want on my team. You can have a Teixeira who sat on the bench for 2 months with a grade 1 calf strain while the team was in jeopardy of missing the playoffs. He'll fit right in with what you're looking for

    Someone mentioned Abreu and his fear of warning tracks only cost his team 1 or 2 games a year, kept him healthy and on the field. Bullshit. How many times have you seen a player make a big play and swing momentum on field. You can't quantify how many games his teams could have won. Laziness is also a disease and spread throughout the locker room so when Bobby Abreu isn't hustling, neither will the younger guys. Dude has great individual numbers but never won shit in this league. He brought no heart to NY when he was a yankee and you could smell his pussy from the stands. He was on the '08 team that closed OYS without making the playoffs. Cano was benched that year for not hustling, Cabrera acted the fool almost daily, the shit goes on from that season but my blood is already boiling. Bottom line, I loved that Abreu left NY and went to the Angels.
     
  7. southerndodgerfan

    southerndodgerfan Dodgers Enthusiast

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    If you do, you will have to become baseball moronic and learn to repeat the mantra "they are not roiding...they are just naturally talented...we never get lucky...they are not juicing...McGuire was railroaded...it is all in the past...other teams cheat"
     
  8. bestlakersfan

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    Nicely said. Please come by more often, this forum needs more of this and less bitching and queerness.
     
  9. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    uh huh
    how'd that confident as fuck thing go?
     
  10. bestlakersfan

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    Better than the bitch-ass shit that goes on, complaining about everything. Fuck that...
     
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    Unbelievable...already a downer for next year before it ever gets started. MF.
    Victorino signing (if Ned can "use his imagination" as he suggest we all do), seems abolutely imperative now. Or at least, intelligent.
     
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    "The squeaky wheel get the grease"; like a bunch of new players, because the complaining and bitching is totally justified-it's baseball. That's why teams go out and make trades and sign different people.
    The over confident, eternal cockeyed optomist gets...well, the over confident wind up looking like bragging big heads with shoulder surgery, for instance.
    The other gets, if your a Dodger fan, the old, (as Vinny's parting words were again this year after the last game), "wait 'till next year".
    That's so much better , eh?
    No offense, but that attitude seems a bit dull-witted. Like : do you have any idea WTF is really going on during the collapse out there? Looking at the floundering situation through constant rose- colored glasses is not only useless, it's unrealistic while your arch rival is dancing circles around you.
    And while you are spouting glass half- full slogans, you are getting buried by your competition. That's better? I don't get it.
    Granted, some complaining is overboard, but generally, compared to looking the other way at so many problems and not complaining about them...
     
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  13. irish

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    complaining is not only our right (as fans), it's our fucken duty
    passion >>> passivity
     
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    I think complaining goes with being a fan. Live near any LSU fan for ten minutes. Seriously. I will admit that I go overboard with hyperbole insofar as injuries and the like are concerned. That said, I still would not mind the Gnats bus crashing and injuring all players on board.
     
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    It's great to be positive and negative. You should try to keep a balance. That's what being a fan is. A team that is doing really well pumps you up; so you are therefore "confident as fuck" as one of my friends once said. If they're playing like the Dodgers did in June, then you're "negative as fuck". Simple fan-hood characteristics right there.
     
  16. doyerfan

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    I think I'm grouped into the "positive" group and now I'm being attacked as too "negative" which gets handled as a political group where people just label you and don't read what you are actually saying and instead just say "stop being so negative no matter what you are saying" (Or, "stop being so positive no matter what you are saying")

    What I am saying about Kemp is that playing "hard" on those plays when it all comes down to it doesn't mean much. He can play hard in other ways. I'd rather him play hard running through home plate (like he failed to do) on something where it actually matters and he won't get hurt, rather than in the bottom of the 1st inning in Coors field on a play he is never going to make for the sake of an out, or running through home plate and slowing down (which lowered his chances of being safe) to use his torn labrum to try to knock the ball out (and failed)

    You can play hard and not play stupid. Ethier, Mark Ellis, and Luis Cruz play hard, but they do it smartly. They know limitations and don't play reckless. They also play hard on things that matter. James Loney fucking sucked, but he always ran 100% and went over the rail.

    When it comes down to it, playing hard is just something fans wants to associate with the good players when they get themselves hurt and then they want to associate with the bad players to label them as pussies. Playing hard doesn't mean running into walls and risking serious injury for the sake of an out, to me playing hard is running things out and doing your best to be healthy for 162 games cause being healthy for all the games is way better than the MAYBE one out you get and for fans to say "Hey man, who cares if he's hurt for 50 games... He played hard!" The value of playing those games without running into walls is MUCH greater then being "hard" and not playing. If you watch your favorite player to admire him being reckless than that's just weird to me, I watch Kemp to see him hit bombs the other way not to run into shit. Same goes to AJ, I would rather watch him hit 13 bombs and walk a lot rather than get drilled at the plate for the sake of an out. Choosing to not run into something when you aren't gonna make an out isn't being a pussy, it's being smart. Now, if you are scared to do a take out slide or even get close to the wall on a play you will make, that's a pussy. But i'm talking about plays that you won't make.

    It's not that we "hate" Kemp (seems as if the slightest negative towards anyone gets labeled as absolute disdain) it's that I wish he ran hard when it mattered and not on things he isn't going to change (outs he won't make, runs he won't score). I think it's okay to want the $160 million dollar player to play 162 games.
     
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    this is such a great post
     
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    Seriously though Doyer, I do agree with you in theory, but do you really think Kemp didn't think he'd make that out? Do you think he ran after the ball thinking,"well I'm not gonna get the out, so I'll just run into the wall then"? I'm sure he thought he'd make a catch. I'm sure he was just focused on making the play, not of the outcome or the risks and for that fans and teamates appreciate it. He put the game/team/winning before himself. That's pretty badass and that's the kind of guy that you'd want in your foxhole...or on your team.

    I'm just not sure what to want or expect from Matt. I'd hate for him to play like Bobby Abreau or Garret Anderson...but then again there would be a huge reward for it...a 162 game season with huge numbers maybe?
     
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    he's got to be more aware of his surroundings
    there's a reason they call it the warning track
    playing smart aggressive baseball >>> playing reckless
     
  20. LAFord

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    Yeah he does.
     

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