Dodgers should call up Joc, not Puig

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    he makes a good argument
    and i had to laugh/cry at his "watch gwynn or herrera get the nod/a typical Dodger move" comment
    sadly, i bet one of those pieces of shit does get the call... probably gwynn
    pathetic
    :facepalm:


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    by Dustin Nosler | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 17 hours ago​

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    Everyone knows Yasiel Puig will get his shot in the majors sooner rather than later. But if the Los Angeles Dodgers have to place Matt Kemp on the disabled list after he injured his right hamstring on May 29, Joc Pederson should get the call.​

    Pederson, a 2010 11th-round selection from Palo Alto High School (Calif.), is having a fantastic season in the Southern League (Double-A) -- a neutral league with some of the best prospects in the game. As a 21-year-old, Pederson is facing competition roughly 2 to 3 years older than himself.​

    The toosly outfielder won the Dodgers' minor league player of the year award after an impressive showing in the California League (High-A). He hit .313/.396/.516 with 18 home runs, 70 RBIs and 26 stolen bases. This season, he's posting a nearly identical triple slash -- .313/.393/.516. The thing is, the Cal League is a notorious hitter's haven, so the numbers he's putting up for Chattanooga are that much more impressive.​

    Pederson also has the ability to play center field -- at least somewhat adequately -- while Puig has all of two games played there this season.​

    The most impressive part about Pederson's season might be his improved baserunning. Last season, he was 26-for-40 in stolen base attempts. That kind of ratio won't get it done in the majors. This season, he's 15-for-17, a ratio that's good in any league.​

    This is not an indictment of Puig's ability. His ceiling is almost limitless. However, for what the Dodgers need right now, Pederson fits better.​

    Puig is having a good season himself, showing a lot of that power potential he showed in spring training and has shown in batting practices. He's hitting .309/.386/.590 with eight home runs and 11 stolen bases.​

    Puig is a profile right fielder. While he's clearly athletic enough to handle center field, his instincts and judgment aren't up to par. He could play there in a pinch, but he couldn't handle the position full-time.​

    There had been whispers the Dodgers were concerned with Puig's maturity level -- and rightfully so. But it seems he's turned a corner and, despite his batting practice antics, will have a spot on the Dodgers by the time the 2014 season rolls around.​

    Puig doesn't really have much more to learn in the minors, but the lack of a long-term, full-time position with the big league club prevents him from making his Major League Baseball debut.​

    The Dodgers can also showcase Pederson for a couple weeks if Kemp goes on the disabled list. He's raised his prospect star this season with his strong performance. If he shows he can do it against Major League pitching, he could be the centerpiece in a July trade.​

    Whoever replaces Kemp, it will be a temporary move. Kemp's mild hamstring injury shouldn't keep him out too terribly long. Pederson getting his feet wet could also help his development, because he's shown the ability to thrive against advanced competition.​

    It's a good problem to have, in theory. It isn't good when a team's perennial MVP candidate isn't performing anywhere near that level, but it's good to have viable replacement options, even if Puig would be a circus in center field.​

    After all this, watch Tony Gwynn, Jr., or Elian Herrera get the nod over both top prospects. That would be a typical Dodger move.​

    Dustin Nosler has followed the Dodgers from Northern California all his life. He's the founder of Feelin' Kinda Blue, a Dodger blog. He also co-hosts "Dugout Blues," a weekly Dodger podcast. Find him on Twitter @FeelinKindaBlue.

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    Nick Buss or bust imo
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    or songco so dl can get wood
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    awesome... not:darkcloud:
    • Dodger management is leaning toward promoting an outfielder from Triple-A Albuquerque, where Tony Gwynn, Elian Herrera, Matt Angle and Nick Buss have spent time in center field. The Dodgers are not considering bringing up top prospects Yasiel Puig or Joc Pederson from Double-A Chattanooga.
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    Jon Heyman@JonHeymanCBS 2m
    #dodgers are considering a callup for cuban phenom yasiel puig. i say: good idea. http://cbsprt.co/11gxcVb
    10:30 AM - 31 May 13


    Dodgers need a lift. Will wunderkind Yasiel Puig provide it?
    Jon Heyman, Baseball Insider | CBSSports.com
    May 31, 2013 12:58 pm ET

    The Los Angeles Dodgers need a positive twist for their downer of a Hollywood story so far. The much-heralded but little-seen outfielder Yasiel Puig could provide such a twist.

    With the Dodgers' biggest positional star Matt Kemp on the disabled list and the $220-million team still trying to reach .500, the time seems ideal for the script writer to seek a new storyline.

    The multitalented Cuban defector Puig (pronounced Pweeg) is indeed said by sources connected to the Dodgers to be "under consideration'' for a callup after initial word from manager Don Mattingly initially was interpreted by the media to mean that they were going to pass this time on both their top outfield prospects, Puig and Joc Pederson. And Puig was switched to center field for Thursday in what looks like a clear signal just how seriously the Dodgers are considering his callup.

    The Dodgers, 8-22 and in last in the N.L. West, don't think Pederson is quite ready. But it's hard to say that about the dynamic Puig, the spring sensation who's played very well for Double-A Chattanooga (Tenn.). Though, he won't be matching his .517 spring batting average (and 1.328 OPS), three more hits Thursday when he was only a homer shy of a cycle put him at .322 with a 1.008 OPS. He has eight homers and 37 RBI at Chattanooga.

    Puig, 22, was barely scouted when the Dodgers (wisely, I believe) took what seemed like a $42-million flyer on him in the winter. He's hit ever since, though spring training was clearly the highlight.He is an aggressive batter who is said to take vicous cuts.

    Puig is seen as a Yoenis Cespedes type, though he isn't quite as experienced or well-known. Another comp is Bo Jackson, said scout./writer Bernie Pleskoff, one of a few who has seen Puig extensively.

    Puig is said to be a superior athlete, like Cespedes and Jackson. He has 13 steals at Chattanooga.

    The Dodgers used veteran Andre Ethier, who was benched for a game only about a week ago, in Kemp's stead on Thursday. However, Mattingly suggested a more permanent (or at least until Kemp returns from what is described as a mild right hamstring strain) replacement was in the offing. The other possibilities in the Dodgers minors include Matt Angle, Nick Bass, Elian Herrera and Tony Gwynn.

    There are some solid choices in there. But what the Dodgers need now is a spark. What they need is Puig.

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    Please God let it be Puig
     
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    I think one of the reasons Dodgers are so hesitant to call up Puig is probably because they know that he will make it impossible for them to send him down. Forcing a trade of Ethier but his value his so damn low that they will get next to nothing for him.
     
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    • Mattingly cautioned that it might be too early to call either outfielder up to the Major Leagues. "You end up hurting those guys sometimes," Mattingly said. "It sounds great, but it ends up hurting them in the long run."
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    blogger opinion
    so fwiw...


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    Los Angeles Dodgers star outfielder Matt Kemp’s horrendous season continued on Thursday, when the Dodgers placed him on the disabled list with a strained right hamstring. Kemp has struggled mightily this season and the Dodgers hope that the time off from the game helps him return to his old ways. With Los Angeles in last place in the NL West, they could really use a spark. With their centerfielder now on the DL, is it time to bring up their top prospect?

    At 22-30, the Dodgers are now 7.5 games out of first place in the NL West. While that deficit is by no means insurmountable, Los Angeles will have to start playing much better if they wish to compete, and soon. Thursday the Dodgers had Andre Either slide over from right field and take over center. If I was in charge of the Dodgers, I would bring up Yasiel Puig.

    Puig, who is currently at Double-A Chattanooga, hitting .322 with a .615 slugging percentage. He has 8 homeruns, 37 RBI and 13 stolen bases. Simply put, he is dominating the league. That is nothing compared to the way that he handled big league pitching in Spring Training. Puig hit .526 and slugged an incredible .842 during the spring, where he was the talk of baseball. Puig has a great combination of power and speed, and so far in his professional career has shown to be a very good hitter for average as well.

    I think this is a no brainer. Puig is obviously showing that he is ready, dominating his current competition, and the Dodgers could really use a spark at the big league level. Not to mention, that if Kemp sees Puig killing it at the major league level, maybe he will be afraid of losing his job, and perform better when he is ready to return. It might be hard to find room for both guys, but if the Dodgers have both Kemp and Puig playing to the best of their abilities, the sky is the limit.​

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    Kevin Kennedy thinks Monday.

    Imagine adding Puig and Hanley. What an addition.
    Kemp is gone, which is addition by subtraction. So things will be looking better personnel wise. We'll still find a way to lose, but hopefully funner.
     
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    too bad Monday is Cappy night, so by default they cant hit and lose 2-1...
     
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    The Dodgers are at that point in the season where they need to play the best players. Herrera or Gwynn aren't our best options. They'd be OK moves if we were in first place or at the very beginning of the season; but we're 7.5 GB and need to start winning ASAP. Get Puig and Hanley.
     
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    This idea of ruining a player by bringing him up for a few weeks is way out of control. Puig can strikeout every day for 2 weeks in the Bigs and it's not going to set him back 2 years.
     
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    LOL "but hopefully funner"

    :laff:



    and this is what our season has become...
     
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    This isn't the 80's or 90's anymore. Kids are playing at 18, 19 and 20 years old and doing fine. Quit babyin these kids and see if they can help the team win. Trout and Harper seem to be fine and they both aren't even old enough to get rental cars on their own.

    They can pay them millions but can't give them a uni and say go play some ball
     
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    I want

    CC LF
    Mark 2B
    AGon 1B
    Hanley SS
    Dre CF
    Puig RF
    AJ C
    Uribe 3B

    F defense just hit!
     
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    Switch up Puig and Ethier at position and batting order and yes.
     
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    Even when we TRY to put out the best defensive team, we're last in baseball. So I agree. Embrace it and try to hit.
     
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    The thing about Puig that scares me is that I don't know if he's ever failed, and what happens to his development when he does in the MLB. Also, what happens if kemp is back in like 13-18 days?

    But man it'd be cool to get Hanley/Puig here... Showboating galore lol
     
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    So are you saying u believe that 3 more months of AA ball are going to prevent him from failing in the bigs?
     

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