DODGERS Dodgers vs. Rays - WORLD SERIES

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Which struggling Dodger has a good World Series

Poll closed Oct 20, 2020.
  1. Kershaw

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  2. Pollock

    26.7%
  3. Taylor

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  4. Dustin May

    6.7%
  1. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    The good news is we looked like the better team (for the most part), and the Rays needed a lot to go their way to win. Including 2 errors on the final play of the game.

    This is a big moment for Kershaw tonight. Redemption? I don’t see how one start, no matter how good, undoes all the history at this point. So no, it’s not a redemption game. It’s a chance to play a complimentary roll to guarantee we don’t get eliminated before a Buehler Game 7... a Game 7 we would win because the Rays have no answer for our Ace.
     
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  2. doyerfan

    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    This morning feels like morning of game 3 of NLCS or morning of game 5 of NLCS, except obviously much higher stakes. I hope they respond as they did those games, from top to bottom, pitching/offense/defense/managing, like they with very very good games. anyone that does fuck up, the other players make up for it. I’ll repeat, just tired of many nights trying to figure out blame assignments or change plays here or there in your brain, that’s tiring. Win the next 2 and we can spend an entire offseason laughing at the mistakes, and basking in the accomplishments.
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Scariest part about today is managing how long you let Kershaw stay there considering the bullpen options after yesterday. Treinen, Jansen, Baez looked shaky. I prob trust Treinen the most out of those 3 to bounce back. Who knows what’s going on with victor. You got Brusdar you can lean on.

    can you use Kelly/McGee/Floro in a tight spot? Do you trust May/Gonsolin? Hm.
    Offense can make this all unnecessary
     
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  4. jpldodgers

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    Woke up still fucking pissed.

    This team will never get over the hill....Ls like last night aren't normal. Rays have to be feeling so confident and loose and all the pressure in the world is on the Dodgers to respond tonight with CK as game 6 is a bullpen game. I'm getting real sick of Mookie Betts having shit ABs. Seems like he only gets hits when the Dodgers are comfortably ahead in a game....a tight game? Mookie is going to fail every time. It's like he's a defensive specialist and nothing more....he is paid way too much fucking money to go 0-5 when the guys behind him go 4-5. I expect more sadness tonight.
     
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    jpldodgers DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    This stupid team brings out the worst in me.

    In every area of life, I am almost always calm/rational.

    The Dodgers bring out a side of me that I didn't know existed.

    All any of us want is just 1 fucking WS and Idk how any of us can comeback for next season if we lose this year as things were aligned perfectly for us.
     
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    i trust them a fuck of a lot more than the perennial losers of last night
    still want to know what happened w Victor cause that was weird
     
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    yep, SO much more about the game makes way more sense if something happened with victor. They’re probably hiding it though to protect the kid or gameplanning. Wonder if bullpen coach or someone noticed something cause yeah: having him warming up with them leading, then shutting him down out of nowhere, rushing Kolarek getting warmed, and then never having him warmed again? A guy that was being trusted in high leverage spots?

    somethjng happened and I hope it was just a yesterday thing and today he’s good to go, that’s a good arm to have ready today
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Yep at some point, Corey and some others are gonna have a bad game and we NEED Mookie to step it up from here on out. Cody also

    0-9 from them is inexcusable. If Enrique and Joc can get hits here or there, come on
     
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    It’s not as bad as the morning of Game 5 of the NLCS. I was completely checked out at that point. It was actually a nice feeling of calm.
     
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    if Cody is hurt then he needs to sit imo cause that fucked up the catching situation
    i don't want Will's bat out of the lineup when he's healthy and getting clutch hits
    a good manager makes those tough decisions
    will be interesting if an ailing guy gets the nod tonight based on reputation
     
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    That they accomplished what did last night with nothing from the two MVPs is commendable.
     
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    and why have instant replay if it makes a tackle play non reviewable?
    his momentum might have carried him that way but he absolutely had no chance w a guy holding onto to his waist falling backwards
     
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    I’ve been saying it for years: That guy is a fucking loser. Only thing more pitiful and pathetic than his performance is his predictable defense mechanism routine postgame. There isn’t enough vitriol in the English language to describe that game so I won’t even try.
     
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    anyone else notice him flailing around w his water bottle pointing in that last few moments?
    it was kind of telling how no coaches or players were anywhere near him
    apparently wanted to make sure everyone knew they weren't the ones responsible for those decisions



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    Very interesting in retrospective view...the DNA of the truly loser team that is the Dodgers and the perfect loser to be leading them marches unabated across the sands of baseball time.
    Like the old joke about why the snake bites the chicken after rescuing it from the flood by letting him ride across on his back, the punch line of " because I'm a fucking snake, idiot" is a mantra for Dave Roberts. Or should be.
    Sure, it's not his fault that the usually sure- handed Chris Taylor clanks fielding that base hit in CF, or our "" stud young catcher" Smith does some kind of game losing pirouette and loses...well...just about everything. But it sure was Roberts' fault that proven choker Jansen was in there at all in that situation...and like the sun setting in the west, out by all you stout fellows, he sure was at fault for at least blowing ANOTHER save. Tie.
    What's a bit amusing though, is the underlying gut feeling that permeates in many Dodger fans. It can be denied, stiff upper lip and all that, but when you read the mantric " at least the one good thing that will come of it is that Roberts will be gone- fired! " That's not a vote of confidence in a LAD championship ring, I'm pretty sure, it follows.
    And today CK will probably succumb to the Rays uber mojo and momentum, so all the haters will ignite and burn him at the stake as the fault and scapegoat...it's started already on here...even if he should do well, it won't be enough. The past must be erased. Unfortunately, it can't.
    Tsk, tsk...such cruel and demanding taskmasters.
    The final joke, imo, is another JU-52 Stuka dive bomber into the bb record Book of the Dead, like all our other chapters we have contributed for decades, won't do a fucking thing to get rid of Roberts.
    Not a thing.
    If that's the silver lining to this now queasy feeling that has replaced the sophmoric overconfidence of only a few days ago, then get out the silver polish.
    It's badly tarnished.
     
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    not making excuses for any of the things you mention happening in that moment however
    that entire team has to be back on its heels thinking here we go again
    thinking after the 8th "ok coach we're going w bazooka right?"
    only to see the grim reality of 74 lumbering his entitled ass in once again
    has to shake every one of those guys even though they'd never admit it
    who knows maybe Kike will say something when he leaves next year
    and then for him to not even participate in the play after that or take responsibility for HIS failures
    now we all sit here, or lay in my case, wondering if we are going to witness another CK implosion
    still like our chances and i really feel he's going to let us compete, maybe even leave w a lead
    won't make a difference if davey calls on the redemption crew in the pen again
     
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    Defensively, Mookie is a level of superlative...
    Offensively, he maybe reaches a level of mediocrity. Maybe.
    It also occurs to me that with four or five spectacular HR catches (or at least XBH) by the combo of Betts and Bellinger, how good would our pitching have been cumulatively if those heroics didn't occur?
     
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    genuine question: who do you call on for our high leverage outs tonight?

    For me, it’s Brusdar for sure for 3, Victor if he’s fine, and I think I even let Treinen go for 3 but that’s shaky. After that I don’t know. No Baez no Jansen tonight though.

    I might even think about using May for 1 inning ?... not sure

    My best hope is the offense makes it where we don’t need to second third or fourth guess any decisions ya know. It’s impossible to find the “right decision” and to me, personally, tiring to have to go over every damn move during a loss. Wins are funner: we don’t gotta care about the manager
     
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    i honestly put Kelly out there
    he may be wild af but he sure doesn't shy from the big moment and i don't get not using him at all when baez is a flaming pos last night
    depending on who's up that inning i trust Victor although maybe he doesn't trust himself atm
    Bazooka no question, Mcgee to the right guys and Floro has been serviceable
    shoot in game 2 i would have let him go back out and yanked him first walk or hit
    if a guy is getting people out let him roll batter to batter since confidence is a big part of it
    we see it all the time w pitchers that have no business doing what they're doing and yet they're setting asses down
    can't be all numbers and match ups all day everyday
    it seems like davey has decided what he's doing before it happens sometimes and doesn't adjust
    i know for damn sure he had projected toomgis to close that
    no way he even considered anything else like maybe even letting Ferris put the foot on their throats
     
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    i see I see. Yeah, that’s why when Dave changed to a more aggressive managing in games 5-7 of NLCS, it was a surprising difference like where the fucks this been, it was more of what you were saying in: we need outs, not roles. Hoping last night was an inflection point, maybe even out of being forced into it. But again, I mostly don’t want decisions to factor into today. Kershaw cruises, offense rakes, then who cares
     
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