Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by darth550, Dec 5, 2015.
Fuck me, didn't know BZ was Asian!
Let's review those "A's" again...
Maybe some people who still give that grade in September have a different ultimate criteria than you and others do for what "failing" is...but it seems if it isn't the same as yours or others feel they should have, it's not valid.
Maybe some people are waiting for a different result before the marks are changed to a higher one. If so, hopefully.
Because what we are headed to is exactly the same goddam thing we been involved in many times before.
This ain't the LAD first fucking rodeo with this shit, in case you haven't noticed.
Not everyone thinks the same as you and them.
You get off on 4 in a row as the end all...good for you. Nirvana.
Don't do it for some...they want more. It's due. It's time. If it should happen... Then it will change for some...me, anyway.
WTF does a grade mean anyway?
So assholes can ridicule others that don't agree with them?
Lol Just enough people to field a lineup of FUCKTARDS
How can they can honestly graded as an "F" at this juncture?
damned Republican's ignoring facts again..
It's really not about being an asshole or putting others down. It's about being realistic. If they get an F because the team doesn't win the WS, well then 29 FOs are failures every year. Which just isn't true. Winning the WS is hard. I've always said the job of a FO is to get a team to the postseason and then the players have to take it from there. That hasn't happened in recent years because of underperformance.
Could it be because some are totally willing to jerk these guys off over what could/should be, which has been achieved multiple times ( even without them), before any results are in? Polish their sacks after we win, not before we do...then you can taint lick in a frenzy, as even cautious fans probably will.
With all the falures in the past written in stone, in the books indelibly for all time, maybe it's you who is ignoring the facts? Yeah, seriously.
Your unrelated political diss aside, as it should be.
Point taken, though not totally agreed upon, imo. No sense arguing with you if your criteria is that 29 other FOs fail and "it's hard". Your criteria, not mine.
There are multiple "fuck them, fuck this, fuck that" posts about some of those other 29 all over the place. Really, who cares about those other 29, ultimately?
But getting back on original point, for some it is always assholes who use temporary success as an opportunity to ridicule...it's why they are here..
I hope I' ll be changing my grade...gladly.
And my feeling is I will, and I can't wait to do it. When we win. Or just get in.
I dunno, some folk take this shit too seriously on both sides.
Others have no idea how to take it.
Its a grade on the future based on a present forecast.
Grading a trade is like grading a prospect.
Reserving your grade for after all the chips are in is not the way it works.
Thats just your grade of the organization. And if the criteria is win the WS = A, not win the WS = F... then there is no gradient there.
The grade is what you give when you see the moves made by the FO and you forecast to how well that will work out in the long run.
The long run here is essentially 1 seasons length.
Its fine if folks thought less of the moves the FO made and gave them an F.
The season has proven them to be wrong of course, and thats ok.
They shouldnt have to change their grade.
Their grade is a vote of confidence and they voted no confidence base on not liking the moves.
The way the team performed is not what is being graded.
Its your expectations of how the team put together by the FO would perform.
The eventual performance is just confirmation to see if you graded correctly.
These guys made me watch Anderson pitch this year. If there was a grade below F, they would get it.
That's your opinion, and your entitled to it.
But it's not mine...and won't be. Totally different elements involved.
Those are your rules as you see them, not mine. NOT the way it works for me; if it does for you, fabulous. Different goals for different people in play here.
It's pretty simple for me: they are a loser club as far as the WS for almost 30 years. That sucks, imo. ANY FO that comes in, starts out with an F in my marking system. If they get to the WS, win or lose, they get and deserve an A, from me anyway. That's how I do it. I reject your logic on this.
You might be taking this stuff all too seriously. Gradients, etc. Lol. It's way simpler for me. Not all that important who grades what.
Anything else, with all the interim sturm and drang, is fucking useless bullshit.
Ok, everybody got that now?
There are only two grades, A and F. Everyone gets an F until they get an A. If you don't get an A, then you get an F. If I read it correctly, there will be two A's awarded per season, and 28 F's.
Makes perfect fucking sense to me.
Everyone is entitled to any opinion they want.
And everyone is entitled to argue.
Why does it bother you when others disagree with you about such things?
Bringing up the 30 year absence of a WS win when grading this current FO is completely out of bounds.
You are grading the entire organization and that is not what the grade is about.
Its grade the nerds not grade the dodgers.
The team is playing well, a lot of their bets paid off nicely, they spread their bets so the failures arent so bad, and when they chose not to bet it turned out a wise choice. The team is doing great and we are poised for the best run we have had in years.
If the team fails it will be the team. We are going into the playoffs with a strong 3 man rotation that still has Urias and JDL if they need them. The team has only one real weakness which is lefty hitting. The Bullpen will be really strong with all the SP that wont be needed and can turn in some long relief.
Using 30 year old personal opinions as the benchmark is very much a narrow view of things.
And folks have a right to have a different opinion or make joking comments at that opinions expense.
Nobody is saying you cant have your opinion. But you seem to be getting upset with what others think about your opinion.
Look at all the shit i get about my Puig opinions. I know going in im going to get challenged and mocked for my opinion.
Thats part of the business of having an opinion. You better be ready to defend yourself without being defensive or offensive.
Thats how you know your opinion is right.
If you need to get defensive about it or attack the person challenging your opinion then your opinion doesnt pass muster.
Prepare the next volley of sturm and drang corporal
aim 3 degrees south of the last strike
He's got me on 'ig', so no danger of return fire.
You might not be the one holding the mortar.
Team is playing great. On a super roll. That's right, we should be going again to the post...just like before. Maybe we are in better shape than before, maybe not.
Doesn't bother me at all if you or anyone disagrees with my opinion. What do I care? I did explain my reasons for my grade..that's it. You want you believe something else about it, go right ahead. You don't like it, that's OK with me.
It's not defense. I don't care if you think it passes muster. A person can't give their reasons without one of your lectures, Rube?
I'm one of the posters who gave them an F...so I stated why, that's all.
That's my opinion and all the shit in between of putting a team together and not going to the WS doesn't matter to me anymore...I just don't think "grades" are that important, but I sure don't care if someone sees it differently than me...even if you think I do. All I did was state my reasons about my grade.
I don't care what anybody else grades them.I don't care what you think of mine, either.
Sometimes I wonder if you're not the one who gets upset when someone disagrees with you, Rube.
The only thing I need to know about you is what I quoted from you in my sig.
And the same can be said for you for thinking there is an acceptable "loss of life".
Patton: "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
Oh, btw, I also know now how true you are to your word.
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