NEWS/RUMORS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. Bluezoo

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    Yeah, he should.
    With the money that has fallen, like manna from heaven upon the LAD, Ned is a broken clock hanging seemingly forever on the wall.
    Even a broken clock comes up right twice a day.
    I wonder how they'll all feel if we nosedive again in 2014, when all the "problems" have already been addressed?
    How it will be "not be on Ned"...should be a creative time for posting for the proNeds.
    I hope I don't have to find out and look at those posts again, ever.
     
  2. Bluezoo

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    The assistant GM?
     
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    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    you're witch hunting for no reason. every major move that's happened under this new regime has been spearheaded by Stan Kasten. he said it himself...when it's something big, he's in. who sat in the NL East watching Hanley suffer with Miami and thought..." if we could just get him to LA and in a winning environment "...Kasten.
     
  4. carolinabluedodger

    carolinabluedodger DSP Legend

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    Calm down Francis.

    No, it's completely relevant. Saying SF won after Ned left is EXACTLY the same as saying SF won after Bonds left. Neither statement proves anything.

    I'm not a Ned defender, I'm a truth supporter. And my memory is very long.

    As I was saying, my memory is very long. I remember going 0 for Evans, 0 for DePodesta, and 0 for Malone too. Did you also call for all of their heads? I'm guessing yes. Fred Claire won a Championship one year after Al Campanis left, does that make Fred Claire the greatest GM of all of the above?

    Gotta admit, that shit is funny.


    One last thing:
    I wouldn't call this a great team, it's a very good team, but not great. There are still a lot of flaws.
     
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    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    if Bonds had half of what we have right now...

    all you need to do is watch MLB Network's Shredder Top 10 at every position. we have the #3 SS ( arguably #1), the #5 CF (arguably #1 when healthy), the #1 RF, the #1 pitcher, a definite Top 10 1st baseman...and the everyday guys who don't rank at all include Crawford and Uribe - both who have been outstanding post season performers in their careers and play great defense on the left side for us.

    it's true that we'll have to upgrade at catcher soon, maybe Wieters??, but AJ hit well in the post season as well, hittin .323 with a .400OBP...had a hit in every game except 1. our Top 3 in our rotation is arguably the best 1-2-3 on top of all that and we have one of the best closers in MLB along with 3 or so other guys who have closer experience, so power arms are not a problem either. i don't see how anybody can be so down on this team, Blue. Ned or no Ned. sorry.
     
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    carolinabluedodger DSP Legend

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    Who is the #1 RF??? Puig? After two-thirds of season is the best in baseball? I now doubt the veracity of the rest of the ranked.
     
  7. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    Of course he is, he can't go home...:hide:

    Free room and board!
     
  10. back2back x 2 + 1

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    yes. The Shredder, which is MLB Network's computer, ranked Puig the #1 RF in all of baseball.

    and it's completely feasible when you consider all the protection he could have + his own 5 tool skillset. he was basically winging it in a Kemp-less lineup last year.
     
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    you could say " wait till pitchers figure him out " or that pitchers did figure him out to a certain extent, but then the playoffs rolled around and Puig was back at it when it matters most. he hit .333 with a .366 OBP in the post season for us. so he's also had his chance to see how pitchers adjusted and he made his own changes. now it's just a continued effort to keep learning and riding the wave. but computer put him @ #1 for 2014...i think Jay Bruce was behind him and Braun behind Bruce.

    it's not crazy to think Puig could do .300/30HRs/80-100RBI with 20+steals and who knows how many outfield assists and such. depending on the lineup...i mean right now i see him hitting clean up for us with AGon behind him, but that's mostly because i think Kemp should be hitting in the 2-hole in front of Hanley and getting as many ABs as possible.
     
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    Health will be KEY this year. Someone needs to be beating this into their heads. If Puig gets protection, Kemp is unselfish and realizes the gaps can be his friend until his true power returns, if Crawford can walk and hit the other way, if Dre can just get his eye back, if Gonzo stays consistent....Call the ball.
     
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    NOBODY here knows who, what, where but if Ned still has his job then it is obvious and indisputable. Somebody likes him.

    Metal detectors at Chavez this year? Bout time I suppose.
     
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    Has Ned really done anything bad since Guggenheim took over (knock on wood; minus Michael Young)?
     
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    If the answer is no, that has everything to do with Guggenheim and nothing to do with Ned.
     
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    I mean we'll never really know.
     
  17. Bluezoo

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    Whether or not Ned has done anything "bad" since Gugs took over is really not the point. IMO, anyway.
    If you like AGon and CC and Punto say, he's a really good GM and goes out and gets the guys you like. I wanted him to sign Wilson (my favorite Number 2 Dodger of all time) and he did. So that was good for me, hypothetically.
    My point is that no matter who he has signed, whether you like the player or not, he can't seem to put together a winner. Just doesn't do it. Other GMs do, obviously....they have the knack of getting the right player at the right time for their team to win....and not always a big time multi-millionaire. He makes the megadeals, I agree, but we are still bridesmaids under him...and whether it's Raider thug mentality or not, it's just win baby.
    So far, Ned is not getting it done. we need a different guy. After 25 years of not being in the WS, isn't it about time?
     
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    Well, the Michael Young rant had been building up all winter. I was greatly surprised it pissed some people off. Ranting is maybe the best part of this forum - particularly when it is wayyyyy over the top. Must have a sense of humor with the Dodgers or you will go mad. I expect everybody will be ranting soon - let the games begin!
     
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    we've needed new ownership way before Ned, Blue. give it up.

    nobody in here, other than yourself, is giving Ned 100% cred for these major trades either. just thought i'd say that.

    our farm was ransacked, so we've constantly been looking for Uribe/Casey Blake-types to surround our stars with instead of surrounding them with young/homegrown talents. it's catching lightning in a bottle and most of it is past ownership's fault. but i'm tired of talking about the past, so you can have it. right now we're the favorites to win the 2014 WS and i like the sound of that...especially when we could be the 3rd best team in our own division. i'll take it...it means we have a talented team in place and that's a start.
     
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  20. irish

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    i understand/agree with both sides here tbh (where's my sitting on the fence smiley?)
    i'm very happy where we're sitting right now
    excited about our chances heading into spring training
    but...
    i also understand where bz is coming from
    '88 was a long time ago and, tbh, that team had no business beating the mets let alone the a's
    the last real "great" team we had was in 1981
    this team has every chance to be as good -- if not better -- than that team
    but for us older fans... it's hard, really hard, not to (at least) have some doubts, even pessimism
    feels like every time we get close we get kicked in the balls
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    as for ned, i think he's learning on the job tbh
    this was/is his first gm job, and his first boss was an idiot
    the mere mention of jason schmidt and andruw jones still makes me cringe
    but getting zack and re-signing kersh tells me he's learning -- either that or stan has him on a short leash
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    but i am optimistic (albeit cautiously) for the upcoming season
    i would prefer we stay away from fodder like arroyo
    and guys jimenez, garza, santana, maholm and crapuano don't excite me either :barf:
    if only we had more prospects on the farm
    and we really can't blame ned (at least not entirely) for that
    but if he were somehow able to pull off a trade for price or scherzer without getting completely fleeced, then i would stand and applaud him :clap: :golfclap:

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