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    ‘Breaking Bad’: Vince Gilligan Shares 5 Alternate Endings (Video)

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    The writers of “Breaking Bad” gave Walter White his M60 before they knew who it would kill.
    Vince Gilligan says in the final “Breaking Bad Insider” podcast that he and his team had no idea, when they gave Walt the machine gun at the start of the final season, that he would eventually motorize it mow down Neo Nazis. They didn’t even know the show would have Neo Nazis.
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    It was a classic case of the “Breaking Bad” writers writing themselves into a corner and trying to find a way out. They created Uncle Jack’s gang in part because they needed villains worthy of a massacre, Gilligan said.
    “We went through every possibility in the book,” he said. “You’re planting a flag at that point… We were saying you know what? An M60 machine gun, Rambo’s machine gun, something cool has to happen with that. We’ll figure it out later.”
    See photos: ‘Breaking Bad’ Cast Steps Out in Hollywood
    As he has done since the start of the podcast, Gilligan gave fans a remarkable look inside his team’s writing process – and the potential endings they tossed out. Fans will want to listen to the podcast in its entirety, but here are some of the rejected ideas:
    1. Walt Goes Rambo
    Our original version was that Walt would use it somewhat in Rambo fashion,” Gilligan said. “Hand held. But the closer we got to the end we realized how Walt’s cancer would resurface and how sick Walt would be. That felt wrong for Walt to go out brawn over brain, go out like Rambo. Walt on his best day was never Rambo. Very late in the game we came up with mounting it in the trunk and using the garage door motor as a way of sweeping it back and forth and automating the process. Everyone, me included, loved the moments where Walt was MacGyveresque.”
    Also read: ‘Breaking Bad’ Finale: 5 (Sort of) Loose Ends (Video)

    2. Walt Kills Cops“We thought, gee, is it too obvious he’d use it on a bunch of bad guys? … He wanted to be known as Jesse James. He wants the credit. So we had versions that we talked about for instance where the police come to get him. He uses it on the police. But we didn’t like that. It just didn’t seem right.”
    3. Walt Takes Out a Jail“We had a version where he goes and breaks Jesse out of jail just as the Nazis were gonna knock Jesse off in jail, and he comes in and uses an M60 to lay waste to an entire prison or a prison bus.”
    Gilligan says of the alternate M60 scenarios: “I’m not saying we got far with those, but we would talk them through for hours on end. … We were like, you know what? as bad as Walt is we don’t want to see him killing good guys. If he’s going to use this M60, even if it’s slightly less surprising, let’s see him use it on guys even worse than he is.”
    Also read: Can Bryan Cranston Escape ‘Breaking Bad’s’ Success?
    4. Skyler Kills Herself“I was leaning toward that and the other writers were like, that’s a bridge too far. Let’s not do that. And they were right. I think that would have been very unnecessary. … I was thinking at some point she went with the Disappearer. We talked about every option under the sun… and one of them was that Skyler leaves with Walt and the Disappearer. … We could almost kinda sorta see where Skyler would go if she was sort of like zombified. But we could never figure out how to get Jr. to go along. … There’s no bringing Jr. if Jr. doesn’t want to go. We talked about a possible version where Skyler and Walt are tied up at a Motel 6 kind of place and he’s talking to her in a bathroom saying, ‘It’s going to be alright… I’ve got a plan. Skyler? Skyler?’ And he finally forces the door open and she’s in a bloody tub or something like that.”
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    5. Jesse Dies, Then Walt Jr. DiesThis wasn’t necessarily a finale ending, but it was an idea Gilligan kicked around before Season 1 even began. He says he considered a sequence in which a very ruthless drug dealer – he would include elements of Gus Fring, Krazy 8 and Tuco Salamanca – would kill Jesse. Walt, “filled with rage,” shackles him in a basement. He rigs a tripwire with a shotgun, so that the dealer can kill himself by pulling it. Walt wants the dealer to do it, so he begins torturing him from the ground up. He starts at the toes and begins “lopping off bits of this guy and cauterizing it with a blowtorch or something.” This goes on for weeks, but the dealer won’t kill himself. Eventually Walt Jr. discovers him and tries to give him some water. When the dealer realizes Walt Jr. is Walt’s son, he trips the wire and kills them both.
    Also read: ‘Breaking Bad’ Finale: Just Perfect (Video)
    Gilligan said no one at AMC was wild about the idea, and eventually his team of writers – “people with more sense,” he joked — reined him in.
    “And you’ll notice we never actually did that scene,” he said.
     
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    Well, it's not too happy. Marie's husband is dead, Flynn thinks his dad is a monster, and Jesse, while free, has a lot of shit to try and get over with no one to help.
     
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    i loved the part w the garage door opener since i have a lot of that in my background. i have mounted those things sideways, backwards, upside down to make things move. used to help stuntman gary davis set up his christmas scenes on candy cane lane in woodland hills. we had shit flying back and forth across the front yard and all sorts of stuff. totally worth it when you see the kids faces but then it just got too much for him.
    still those openers are amazing when you start playing around with them. the built in receivers don't hurt either. your imagination is the only limitation i think.
     
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    Someone just discovered reddit, haha.
     
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    It could certainly make fodder for a new series at sometime. That's for sure. hell, they could even bring back Walt, wo may have died, we all assume. There were cops everywhere, so he could have been saved. Big prison drug kingpin...
    BTW, did you know the kid who plays his son actually talks lke that-it's not an act?
     
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    Meet Walter Blanco: 'Breaking Bad' Gets Spanish-Language Version

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    'Metastasis,' starring Diego Trujillo, will air on Univision's UniMas in the U.S.
    Meet Walter Blanco. He's the flawed lead character in Metastasis, a new Colombian series from Sony Pictures Television with a bold premise: It's about this chemistry teacher who becomes a methamphetamine cook. It's Breaking Bad. In Spanish.
    As U.S. fans of Vince Gilligan's Emmy-winning drama enter postfinale withdrawal, Sony and Colombian producer Teleset are hoping to hook Latin Americans on the story of Walter, partner Jose (Jesse), wife Cielo (Skyler) and brother-in-law -- and narcotics agent -- Henry Navarro (Hank).
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    "Breaking Bad is a fantastic series that wasn't widely seen in Latin America, partly because cable doesn't yet have full penetration in the region," says Angelica Guerra, SPT senior vp and managing director of production for Latin America and the U.S. Hispanic market. "[But] there is a universality to the story and its characters that we recognized could work very well."
    Although Sony has sold Breaking Bad into more than 170 territories worldwide, the nature of the material (drug use, extreme violence) has made the original show a little-seen niche property in most countries. In the U.K., for instance, it was dropped after the second season but revived by Netflix.
    Metastasis (a reference to metastasizing cancer) promises to be more mainstream, at least for Spanish speakers accustomed to such crime telenovelas as El Cartel and La Saga. SPT has presold the first season of Metastasis to all major Spanish-speaking markets across Latin America as well as to Univision's UniMas network in the U.S.
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    Sony insists no other foreign versions are in the works, but the company is an adaptations specialist, having done local-lingo takes on Everybody Loves Raymond for Russia and the Middle East and Married … With Children in a dozen countries.
    Guerra assures Breaking Bad devotees that producers have consulted with Gilligan and his team and that Metastasis will be true to its twisted source material. But a few minor details have been tweaked. "Motor homes are not popular in Colombia," she says, "so audiences will see Walter and Jose cooking up their first several batches of methamphetamine in an old, barely drivable school bus."
     
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    Yeah, but his cerebral palsy isn't as severe.
     
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    Is this legit?
     
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    I just finished the entire series last night and I must say this...
    IMO, this is the greatest TV series I've ever watched and I'm so sad that it had to end.
     
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    Bullets sometimes and often fragment on impact. That MG was shooting through multiple layers of materials starting with the car body and then the outer and inner wall. The effects of many of the hundreds or thousands of rounds and then the fragments of those rounds are unpredictable. Also those 7.62 NATO rounds are very high velocity and would bounce all over the place once they were deformed through initial impact/penetration.
    The round could easily bounced off the concrete floor and up into Walt's side after hitting other hard objects. I assume he was hit with a bullet fragment which is why he wasn't killed instantly.

    IMO, I'd be surprised that Walt only got hit once and Jesse was unscathed.
     
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    Re: the last part

    I think Walt jumped on top of Jesse so he'd have minimal body area where a bullet or fragment can hit him. That's what I thought.

    But your insight was great, thanks Ford.
     
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    Why does Walt have hair? It's been bothering me I feel like I missed something, cause doesn't he have cancer? He has lots of hair
     
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    He stopped shaving it. He was locked in that cabin for awhile.
     
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    But doesn't he have cancer and did a bit of chemo?
     
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    Maybe he didn't do that homemade chemo enough to cause hair loss.
     
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    He had the homemade chemo he was doing for a while. But the guy (Robert Forster) only came every month or so I think. So he just stopped shaving.
     
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    No doubt Walt was protecting him but there's still exposed areas and like I said, Walt could've been hit with more fragments...but also like I said, it's unpredictable what would happen.
    What SCEd said also, those bullets go through a lot of material (including cinderblock/bricks) so most would pass straight through that building. A lot would depend on what's beyond that room on whether many rounds would come back.
     
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    In my experience shooting both the 7.62 ball and the 5.56 at that distance splitting wouldn't be a factor. That was point blank through some pretty easy stuff. Perhaps it hit some rebar? You're right about the heat though at that range those rounds would be serious heaters.

    As far as the mushrooming doesn't it need wind resistance to do that? 20 feet would probably still have the jacket on the round.

    Of course you and I are overthinking this Fordie ole pal but it's fun to speculate.
     
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    LOL, yeah over thinking for sure but this show made me think more than any I've seen....and that's a good thing.

    Hitting rebar, some steel shelving, maybe some reinforced parts of the car trunk, the bad guys guns, plumbing pipes, electrical conduit, a safe, etc. All sorts of things if hit in the right angle would cause a round to shed the jacketing and/or ricochet or fragment, I doubt wind resistance would be needed after impacting multiple layers of shit. But yeah, we both know those powerful of rounds will generally penetrate straight threw almost anything, I've even shot straight through a good sized tree trunk with my .308 auto rifle and a barbecue propane tank with my .223 Mini14. The fact that so many hundreds of rounds were fired makes the hit to Walt more believable though because the more rounds flying the more likely the unlikely could occur.

    The gunfights in this show were really well done IMO. Tuco vs. Hank and the Nazi's vs. Hank and his partner. I really liked them, lots of rounds fired and lots of misses, that's realism. Shaky hands, nervous and panicky facial expressions, the instinct to seek cover, No Clint Eastwood/Rambo/or Schwarzenegger bullshit there. Great stuff.
     
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