NEWS/RUMORS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. N.Z

    N.Z DSP Legend

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    I would prefer a more defensive based IF'er. Michael Young is one of the worst defenders in the league. We have a few guys who can hit already.

    Punto/Ellis non-moves are on Ned.
     
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  2. Doughty8

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    We have 1 back-up infielder NZ. Of the players out there MY has the better career, of course that doesn't guarantee success. Good point about the defense but is Sellers a good defender? Dee at a new position? Guerrero have any defensive skills? Of the guys out there he's a best alternative overall.
     
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    I would do nothing at this point. Go into ST with the usual scrubs and invites. Sure, favor the in-house guys. Because, the number one priority is to find out if Guerrero is ready to play starting mlb 2B right away. If he is, great - there is no real rush to fill the bench. You can run guys on and off the bench all season if you want to. Pre-Ned days they used the bench as a way to break in young talent. Really, though, Ned wouldn't have any trouble finding bench guys, that's his specialty. (Ha Ha). He finds them in the bushes and under rocks. You do need that veteran guy off the bench for post season, though. Well, I think I'm still sold on that. Okay, not so sold as before.

    If AG is NOT ready - how far away is he? Let's say is prescribed for half a season of AAA. Now, that's trouble. The chaos of trying to fill the gap. And Donnie at the helm, doing the juggling. I just hate to lose games early on because of that crap. And I don't like the idea of having Young in there starting for half a season because I think he hits about .230 in that scenario - then he goes on the DL for the rest of the season, and then retires. That's my big fear. It is not an outrageous fear, either, because it really happens - all the time. Deja Vu all over again. So, if AG is NOT ready for at least half a season, Ned must deal. It will hurt, because Ethier is not enough to get anything. He will have to deal from the farm and it will hurt. But, having an extra IF'er when AG becomes ready is not such a bad thing. Oh, I'm already worried about this season... :facepalm:
     
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    ^I'd be with you are most if not all of your points but we are not poor and we can just let MY go if he sucks. Mo harm no foul.
     
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    you just gave Young cred a little while ago for being durable and hitting .276 in full time duty in Philly's shitty lineup...and now you think he'd do .230 with us, hit the DL and retire? wow, bro. you really are a Young hater. lol he did .314 in our lineup without Kemp in it. i could understand if you were like NZ and you'd rather have a defensive based 2B, but c'mon, man.
     
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    all the people saying SVS...i think you guys are forgetting that we have 4 starting caliber outfielders + Dee who could very well be our new Schumaker and rotate between 2B and center. SVS may just be shit outta luck.
     
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    He's old and already talking about retirement. (Read above posted article). Sounds like the fire has burned out. Maybe it's not such a good idea to talk him into playing one more season. Unless it just a PR thing to get a bigger dollar - "I won't play off the bench unless you pay me like a starter" - kind of a ploy.
     
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    Yeah, that's a good point. We're not stuck with anybody. Unless Ned or Donnie fall for that professional smile, that veteran swagger. If he is a really good lunch companion, he might hit .230 and stay on the team all season. Of course, we don't really know what goes on. No, we can only speculate...
     
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    This site is practically a study in speculation so yeah.
     
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    And there are many ways of looking at the Dodgers. Our many ways and then there is Ned's way, which can be entirely different, even irrational at times.
     
  11. Doughty8

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    ^Unfortunately he has the ears of the money guys depending on if you like what Ned has done or not.
     
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    ^So, what does Ned really do? Actually? In fact? I think Ned will have Michael Young signed, sealed and delivered within a week. The writing is on the wall (Dilbeck LA Times) - they are, in fact, negotiating right now. I'm just rebelling against the inevitable, because I can also foresee the half season of .230. It's a bitch being psychic sometimes.
     
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    at least our issues are only bench ones. in my estimation, because their main goal was adding youth to the everyday lineup, Guerrero will have to be hurt to not open the season as our starter @ 2B.

    in the next couple years we may have to address the catcher position and that'll be a huge issue. Wieters is coming up
     
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    No matter what Ned has done , over his considerably long tenure now as our GM....no matter what accolades he's received by his "fleecing of the Red Sox and getting their best players (that would be the world champion Red Sox, BTW)...all the praise of "now he has money to spend -finally" touts, (conveniently forgetting under Frank he has at least TWO of the worst signings in recent MLB history and had as much money as he needed to sign them), and on and on and on....has this guy delivered a winner?
    I forgot, we are odds-on favorites now; is that right?
    The guy's just not a winner, no matter what he does or who he gets. I stand by that, until the day comes that we are. Plainly and simply.
    Whatever he does that looks so-o-o good to people in the winter, just doesn't do it. We need a new guy, then maybe we win.
    Just ask the SF Giants, who rose to championship status soon after he left.
    TWICE.
    Even a mosquito stops sucking when you bash it's head in...
     
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    (psst....Ned was only assistant GM in SF, unless you think he was calling the shots for Sabean...)

    Also, using your logic, how come Sabean didn't win a WS with arguably (and I WILL argue) the best player in history under contract? Also, it can be said that the Giants rose to a championship soon after that player left...
     
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    It's overwhelmingly universally known that this board loves Stan Kasten yet he still has NedCo as his GM, why is that? If he's so terrible at his job then he should be gone right?
     
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    never seen you so worked up over anything :laff:
     
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    Maybe the departure of an assistant who flat out sucked is why the Giants soared to where they eventually got, IDK. And what SF winning after Bonds left has to do with my post about Ned is irrellevant to my post about Ned.
    I can't answer your question about SF because: it's not my "logic" that the Giants didn't win with Bonds....that's yours. And really, WTF does that have to do with what Ned has done in all this time with the Dodgers? Or hasn't done. Bonds wasn't surrounded with a great team...we theoretically are surrounding the best pitcher in BB with just that.
    Every Ned supporter I've ever come across like you, has always had a very short memory...and the fact that the LAD are O for Ned, always somehow forgotten or not mentioned. Maybe, IDK, you're one of them who is satisfied with our "elite" team status now-y'know... going to the playoffs and crashing and burning over and over. Some have written how great that is...failure comes in many colors, I would say.
    That's supposed to chub Dodger fans up about Ned?
    We'll see what happens this year and what new shit Ned taint lickers can up with...I hope we finally get there in 14. Fucking FINALLY with this turd GM and all the mega deals he's supposedly pulled off.
    Is this the part where the response is "well how shitty were the Cubs GMs all these years"?
     
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    just curious who does most of the work behind the scenes :shrug:
     
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    i literally just spit out my coffee laughing :spitcoffee:
     

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