DODGERS 2017 NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread

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  1. dodgers

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    Bryce Harper is a fucking clown
     
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    Yeah, gonna say this FO has really shit the bed on big FA signings. Kept holding out hope that McCarthy could figure it out, but now I don't want him anywhere near this franchise in any capacity. Dude is soft and it's pretty obvious he will never get over the shot to the head. Sucks to say it like that, but I think that is where you can contribute his Yips to. I have no faith that he could hold up in a post season capacity. Very disappointing, but I hope this off season, they find people that will assume even just a million or two of both Kazmir and McCarthy's contracts. Just wasted 40 man space and $4 mil could buy a solid bench piece or a couple bullpen lottery tickets.
     
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    would be willing to give the fo a pass on both except for length of both contracts
    imo shouldn't offer 3 or 4 year deals for back of rotation starters
     
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    Lol Harper's hair is tremendous
    He's like 10-15 years late, but fun shit to see nonetheless
    He should go for the Jaso brodie look next
     
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    i'm thinking larry fitzgerald
     
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    They did pretty good with that Turner and Kenley guys this past offseason.
     
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    Kazmir was not a back of the rotation starter at the time and McCarthy really wasn't either. Both showed that they were probably #3 types and that 12-16 mil AAV is about what that gets you at this day in age. Both were lottery tickets of potentially more than that. Kazmir was coming off a year where he was close to being one of the better pitchers in the AL, while McCarthy had begun throwing a pitch again that had made him so successful before AZ had him scrap it. If either one of those things had continued to play out, we are talking about insane bargains, not busts. Plus, remember that the Kazmir deal was looked to be a bargain at the time. Everyone felt it was a one year contract and then he would opt out into one of the worst FA pitching markets in recent history. He just had to be average and it was a lock that he was outta here. They had to spend money in an awful FA market the year they went after McCarthy since the farm was barren and then did a panic move for Kaz when Greinke bolted for AZ and Iwakuma in turn failed his physical(also, thank god we did not sign Price or Cueto).

    A lot of this can be contributed to the fact that we were a team that was good enough to be a WS contender, but a couple moves from being truly elite, while not having a farm deep enough that you could move people in it and not fuck yourself 2 years down the road AND they knew when these pieces would start being ready to contribute we were looking down the barrel of that awful 16-17 FA pitching class. It fucking sucks that we are stuck with these guys and they have been horrendous busts (Plus Crawford, AGon, Ethier and even Kemp in a way), but the good news is these guys are going to be dropping off in a big way at a time where our farm is producing at an insane success rate and the team should be damn near set at almost 100% starting roster if the cards fall into place. They no longer have to splurge to get filler, they can spend money on the truly elite guys that would set the team far ahead of the rest.
     
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    Was just saying recently that Wood could find himself in a similar situation, of course he's not nearly as expensive, but yeah, he could find himself out of the post season picture in the future. As a starter, that is. Have Buehler arriving and White likely not too far behind, have Julio potentially returning at some point in late June-August, possibly acquiring Otani if he can be convinced to take less...possibly bringing Yu back, perhaps the chances are looking better there since he hasn't torn it up and his value could lowered. Wood could be on the outside looking in come Oct/2018..Hill the same, TBT. Even if they're healthy. The Kaz and McCarthy deals were given to bridge them to the kids with the power arms and the time is nearing. If they can stay healthy.
     
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    Fitz works too
    Jaso is super-brodie tho

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    sorry man don't agree
    some stats may have shown they were #3's or one of the top pitchers in the league but there's other factors
    mccarthy was shit for 1½ years, and his 4 year deal was based solely on ½ good season with nyy
    kazmir was exactly the opposite; good for 2½ and then absolute shit for ½ season -- his fip a full point higher than his +4 era
    imo if they amongst the top pitchers in the al there would have been a lot more suitors
    i forgot about the opt-out in kazmir's contract, but it was still lose/lose for us...
    if he does well; he walks
    but if he sucks ass; he can opt to stay
    i don't see how that favors us in any way
    idk, just my thoughts
     
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    I hope we resign that Forsythe guy.
     
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    If I remember both deals were questioned at the time, so saying they are bad isn't just hindsight.

    I liked the McCarthy deal. It was a bigger contract than expected, but he appeared to figure something out with the Yankees and he was over his injury issues. The Tommy John surgery was unrelated to other injuries if I'm not mistaken, so it was bad luck on our part. But had he stayed healthy his salary is perfectly fine for even a backend pitcher.

    The Kazmir deal I was never totally on board with. I hate option deals with a passion. I even hate Kershaw's option. But it's not my money, so I hoped for the best.
     
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    The crazy thing about McCarthy is that he was solid for this team all year till the blister and the knee tendinitis. The knee thing was not a huge problem but the blister seems to be the real issue. How can they figure out Hill's blister issue but not McCarthy's??? This team confuses me most of the time??!!!
     
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    wouldn't have had a problem with mccarthy for 2/$24MM
    but 4 years for someone coming off only ½ a good season?
    might as well sign him for 4 more years based on his good 2017

    agree on kazmir


    vaginal blisters are a lot tougher to deal with
     
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    Chemistry. Each person has their own pace of healing. Who knows.
     
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    You're forgetting the "minor" issue of the yips.
     
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    well if he has blisters than the "yips" might have stemmed from there, especially if he has never had a blister before. At this point we need someone to spark this team, Joc/Ethier/Verdugo/Behuler.....someone!!!
     
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    He had the yips for a time last year, too.

    He's a mess.
     
  19. irish

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    wonder if he has performance anxiety issues with his wife...
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    i think fsu brought it up
    but the yips might have been collateral damage from taking a comebacker off his head

    buehler, maybe
    i was wrong about verdugo... he isn't ready
    maybe had the brought him up earlier when things were going well, idk
    ethier hasn't played in a year so...
    as for joc, he hit .143 in aaa so the only spark he lights is the stove
     
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