Agon believes Dodgers better than Giants

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  1. irish

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    Adrian Gonzalez Believes Dodgers Were Better Than The Giants
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodgers Nation -- 4 hours ago

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    The storied rivalry between the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants added another chapter last season after the two teams did something for the first time since 2004. After jockeying for position atop the NL West standings, the rivals were locked in a division race in the final month of the regular season.

    The Dodgers took two of the three games played at AT&T Park from Sept. 12-14 to maintain their lead in the division and put themselves in position to repeat as NL West champions when the Giants arrived at Chavez Ravine on Sept. 22 for a three-game set.

    Although the Dodgers would again win two of the three games, including a win over Giants World Series hero Madison Bumgarner, and clinch a consecutive NL West title. However, it was the Giants who ultimately got the final laugh by winning their third World Series in five years.

    After winning his fourth career Gold Glove, Adrian Gonzalez said he believes the Dodgers were better than the Giants, but gave them credit for playing well in the postseason, via Bill Plunkett of the OC Register:

    Bill Plunkett @billplunkettocr
    "To be honest with you, #Giants winning actually makes me feel like we were a great team. We won division. Shows we were the better team ...
    5:20 PM - 4 Nov 2014

    Bill Plunkett @billplunkettocr
    "They just played better in the playoffs which obviously is what matters." #Dodgers Adrian Gonzalez
    5:20 PM - 4 Nov 2014

    The Dodgers and Giants met 19 times last season with the Dodgers just edging them in head-to-head victories with 10. Through May 11, the Giants raced out to win seven of the first 10 meetings as the Dodgers again fell in another early hole.

    However, from July 25 through the remainder of the season, the Dodgers lost just two games to the Giants and answered a 9-0 loss with a historic performance at AT&T Park. While they may have been the superior team in the regular season, the Dodgers would likely trade that for the postseason success their rival had.
     
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    they are

    we win the division by 10+ games next year, fuck the having to come back in June bullshit and then we see what happens in October
     
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    stfu AGon
     
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    And that is why you lost.
    "They just played better in the playoffs"???!!! Well that happens to all that matters idiot.
     
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    Wow...profundity by Agon. We didn't know any of that. Enlightening.
    He's entitled to his opinion though. And he certainly did his job offensively and defensively with the Dodgers.
    It's still jaw dropping how we lost the NLDS; that will never change. The Giants were in a good spot to keep going, as we can't solve the post season, whether we get through the Cards or not.
    Top FO guys and guys with their doctorate aren't going to make a fart of difference in the end, no matter how much BS moneyball bucks they save by clever, slick, drooled over on this site signings.
    Not if we get to the post again, and the same incredible things happen again. It won't fucking matter one bit.
    And I still ask what is all this newly acquired wisdom thinking when they leave a bleeding wound like Mattingly to lead them?
    I guess they're so brilliant, it's beyond most comprehensions.
     
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    He also believes it's all part of gods plan and has PS 27:1. inscribed on all his bats.
     
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    The Dodgers are better than the Giants; baseball just sucks.
     
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    donnie is brilliant and fits the moneyball mold to a tee
    oh, not on the baseball field
    but away, on off days, in the offseason, now
    whereas most people drink pepsi or coke, donnie drinks kirkland sodas from costco
    idiot, right
    not so fast
    kirkland soda has a WAR of 4.4, whereas pepsi and coke are <2
    ESPN's Brian Kenny agrees...

    "Pepsi and Coke will get you through a game or two. But over the long haul, especially during the dog days of summer, Kirkland will give you an extra boost. Plus the sugar letdown afterward is fucken awesome!"

    donnie also prefers gummy worms to gummy bears
    not a big deal, right?... wrong
    gummy worms project a dWAR of 7.5, gummy bears -0.2
    or as Keith Law breaks it down...

    "The tastes are similar, but the elasticity of gummy worms should not be undervalued. Small market and large market teams alike need to readjust their way of thinking when it comes to chewable sugar snacks."

    so yeah, donnie gets it
     
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    I mean.... we're more talented and over a large sample-size outperformed them. So, yes. But... we also didn't win the World Series.... so not so much.
     
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    we all criticized that ckunt brandon belt for saying (about us) that you can't buy chemistry
    i applaud adrian for speaking out
    sure, he could have been a bit more diplomatic
    but i appreciate not only what he said, but that it apparently also bothers him
    beats mattingly's, "um, duh, we have to play better..." rhetoric
     
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    We whooped their ass down the stretch and pulled away with the division. Damn right we were better than them, and that's why their title hurts even more. Detroit is probably saying the same thing about Kansas City....baseball is stupid.
     
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    Detroit vs Dodgers would have at lest felt like a real World Series.
     
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    it's high time these Dodger fuckers humble themselves. and AGon's supposed to be a leader. when i see something like this from a supposed leader, i can't help but feel like this group will never get it. i see these comments and i feel like AGon's saying " sign me up for another season like this one! the division title! " fuck that noise.

    it should not feel good to see the SFaGs win it all. it should both feel bad and taste bad. you should respect the fact that their group has done it 3 times and you should not feel like a great team after having watched them do it 3 times. save that bullshit for somebody else, AGon. i have no fucks to give about a division title..more than half the NL West is pathetic as it is. it's not like they won the central. so what if you played better against the West bums?..definitely weren't good enough to be talkin like this. i know that.
     
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    Exactly.
    I feel the same way I felt as I did with the Lakers vs. the Celtics in the 80's. I still remember the 84 series. I went into that knowing the Lakers were the better team. But the Celtics had still never lost a series to the Lakers in their History at that point. Game 1 went to the Lakers in Boston Garden. Game 2, the Lakers lead by 2 with the ball and less than 20 seconds to play. About to take a 2-0 series lead on the road and a stranglehold on the series. Worthy has an incredibly bad pass, Celtics tie the game and send it to OT where they win. Game 3, Lakers slaughter the Celtics at the Forum. Game 4, Lakers lead late, going on another typical Showtime Laker run. Rambis going for a breakaway layup and Kevin McHale makes the point of no more layups by clotheslining Rambis. It would be a flagrant foul in today's game, but it sent a message. The message to the Lakers was that the Celtics were tougher than them. Celtics again tied the game, sent it to OT where they won again. So a series that should have been a 4 game sweep imo, was tied at 2-2.
    Remaining games of the series played out according to home court, and the Lakers lost 4-3 to a Celtic team that I knew was inferior but which I also knew was tougher in crunch time than the Lakers were.
    Following year, same teams meet again. Lakers are slaughtered in Game 1 in the Memorial Day massacre. And I am thinking is this going to happen again? But that Laker team learned the toughness required in playoff basketball and finally beat the Celtics in a series
    It is what the Dodgers need to do. It isn't all about talent in the playoffs. It requires a mental toughness that they don't have at this point. Ask Bumgarner about it, who goes from being a very good pitcher in the regular season to ridiculous in the playoffs, allowing 1 run in 37 World Series innings. Ask Mariano Rivera about it, who while still the greatest reliever ever, still manages to raise his game in the playoffs, lowering his era from 2.21 in the regular season to 0.70 in the playoffs.
    Statements that we are better don't sit well with me, because we are not. Get to the postseason and play better when it really counts and then talk to me
     
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    Ask Sandoval, who had mediocre stats in the regular season, and is out of control in the playoffs....and in the WS-all of 'em.
    The Dodgers are the exact opposite; they have best in the ML in ERA, RBIs and SBs, maybe the MVP, best no.2 starter in BB, phenom Cuban sophomore players, etc., and turn into a gelatinous mass in the end in the post season. Piles of shit everywhere.
    That's why the WCII system could spell the end of teams who tough it out and labor and do their job successfully all season long and win whatever.
    And a team, theoretically playing a little better than average, can get hot, and their players get into post season mode (like the Giants, certainly), and win it all.
    Somehow, it's wrong. It's too diluted. It's almost like "do we try and win this whole thing, or do we stay close and try to peak late"?
    Too much like basketball now...
     
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    Because you won the division and took the season series 10-9?
    Over a large sample size they have 3 titles in 5 years and the dodgers haven't been to a WS since 88.
     
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    You don't need to rub it in, guy.
     
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    the leadership on this team is fucked in the head. good luck, Farhan.
     
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    I never liked Kevin Youkilis.
     

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