He is a rookie, he can play LF just fine, he hits better playing 1B, we need him to hit well playing LF, we know he can do it, the org knows he can do it, its just a matter of playing time. Stats ruin peoples understanding of the game. Stats are data, data is what you measure with science. Data is not science. Measure only tells you the past, the past only matters if your science is strong enough to decipher meaning out of the data. Not the raw meaning because raw data is pretty useless for prognostication. You need analysis. Without analysis we are just broken tweeters repeating the same noises so they mean nothing.
My "analysis" of your post has arrived at a contradiction, but of course it is just me...but how can Forsythe "not be a disappointment at all" in one sentence, and in the following paragraph, be "the total hack that he is now"...? Which, btw, the latter I agree with.
from data comes knowledge knowledge is power science might have the answers, but it can't hit a breaking ball if you have something that's working well, you keep doing it until it isn't to otherwise change it is inane
bench caliber, yes problem is he's not a bench player... at least not in roberts eyes despite missing a month, he has more at bats than anyone except for cory, puig ,cody, taylor, grandal and turner he's a regular... a regular disappointment
He makes little money. We have his position covered in every way possible. He is an extra. For an extra he is fine. Dave plays him because he likes what Forsythe brings and because Dave has experience bringing vets along who are struggling but have shown that they can play. You dont think there is a reason Dave plays him a lot? Seeing lots of pitches may not look good on your personal stats but it makes your teammates stats way better. And it gives the coaching staff a lot of clues as to what to do next. While giving the GM's more data on that pitcher for future evaluations in their little computers filled with just that type of analyses.
he's not paid to be a sacrificial lamb fine line between being selective and being too passive and there's a reason why he was moved out of the leadoff role and as fsu alluded, he strikes out way to much for a guy with only 3hr logan does well against lhp and is best in the 5 or 6 spot but no matter how you slice it he's still been a disappointment
Wrote that he should be platooned what more do you want? I looked up his stats and answered the question of why he is in the lineup against left handers at least. He's simply horrid against righties and if he sucked against lefties too then I'd be all over him. Can't speak to why Doc is putting him in there against everyone and thought I conveyed that in my post. Doc is the professional here so I must defer to him no matter what we think of Forsythe. You never ask why Doc is doing this? It's not like he's a lifelong Dodger or hugely paid so there has to be a reason. You're talking about the BZ post right after mine I'm guessing. He really didn't have an answer to my splits so there's that.
you and rube try to defend forsythe regardless all i'm saying is he's been a disappointment better against rhp, sure solid defensively, no argument but he wasn't brought here to be a platoon player
He's "slugging" .318, lower than the renowned slugger Juan Pierre did in three yrs with the Dodgers. There are a lot of positives to Forsythe, but the Ks and lack of extra base hits are a big hole in his resume.
Taylor was brought here to be a platoon player and he plays everyday so sometimes you don't always get what you initially thought you would get. Nothing is written in stone in sports. What part of he should be platooned is defending Forsythe regardless. He's not good enough to play against righties I'd say that's a criticism but maybe it's just me. Answer if you like I am done with the convo, no hard feelings as always. Doc dropped Logan one spot so maybe he's re-thinking things.
From data comes knowledge. Yes. Knowledge is power, yes, but only when you know how to wield knowledge with wisdom. Or else you are just very learned or smart but that means very little on its own. We are littered with college degreed people who can's get or hold a job. A degree is so you can work a 'noble' job and not a common one. Problems always happen when there are more nobles than noble jobs and the commoners start doing those jobs too. Nobles then get mad, when they should not, its too late. At that point the nobles best make friends with the commoners and share the noble jobs or else the nobles become totally useless and dependant on the commoners. At which point they become extinct and the new noble savages take over. Science is the ruler. It is that important, it rules. But by rules I mean it measures. Which is very important. Measurements are like stats, we keep records of them because it makes us feel good. Stats help clarify things in the past in order to help you make decisions in the future. If you simply take a stat/measurement/science data at face value they are just bits and bytes on an MP3 instead of the live concert of information that can be accessed by analysing the bits and bytes and putting together a much richer experience.
street smarts/common sense trumps college education every time combine the two and you've got something... but not a job nothing noble about being an incompetent wage slave science is more often misused than utilized correctly your concert analogy is a good example... why a perfectly mixed studio album seldom sounds as good as a live [1 take] performance
Because this is not the team Logan was brought in to play with. It is an entirely different animal. Logan was brought in primarily to hit the tar outta lefties. And to play 2b alongside a resigned Utley who can't hit lefties but can be an important part of our right handed lineup in key stretches and fun moments. And to help at 3B with Turner shaky vs lefties and also dealing with injuries. And to play some 1b vs lefties since Adrian is weak in that respect and of course he is aging and needs rest. But then Justin comes back from injury even better than ever and hitting well vs lefties. Seager improves vs lefties 2 new players who were not bats we counted on coming into the season have debuted with all star type season. Oh and Taylor and Bellinger both excel vs lefties. Taylor specially. His ascent to awesomeness has taken everything Logan was supposed to come in and do but cranked up a bunch of notches. Probably crushed his spirit for a good third off the season. Utley continues to play well vs righties and to come up big. Those are all the reasons why Logan and his specific skill set went from absolutely needed to a luxury that you can carry until he improves his form or stash him and hope he comes back with a new and improved spirit. And Grendal improved this year and can hit lefties. And Barnes emerged as legit. Oh and he plays 2b well, hits lefties, and is a high OBP guy, all Logan traits. And Puig is back baby! And all our team is stacked. And we the best team in the game breaking records and burning baseball history books. And then we got Yu Darvish and Tony Watson and some random castoff who may get spit shined with the finest nerd/dodger annointing oil and be the next RP version of Taylor to continue the line of low lights being made bright stars in blue heaven. All you need from him is to be a great option when they need more hitting vs lefties in the lineup or off the bench. That is his role on this new team, and he can play it well. And if he can find his hitting vs righties that's a bonus. But where would he play?
Because this is not the team he was brought in to play with? Yeah, it's a good thing they are what they are...because he would look worse than ever if they weren't.
Odd that Joe Davis mispronounces Goldschmidt's name just the same way Vinny did. Or maybe I have it wrong...but schmidt is not pronounced "smith". Didn't used to be .
