DODGERS Who will be the next MANAGER?

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The Next Dodger Manager will be...

  1. Gabe Kapler

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  2. Dave Martinez

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  3. Tim Wallach

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  4. Ron Roenicke

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  5. Bud Black

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  6. Some other puppet

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  1. KOUFAX0000

    KOUFAX0000 DSP Legend Damned

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    Dusty hired Davey.

    Are Cey, Russell and Garvey next?
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    i see how you only mention white guys
    no reggie smith?

    fucken racist :smh:
     
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    Friedman has open mind in manager search
    Dodgers president will consider at least 10 candidates for position
    by Richard Justice | MLB.com — 4 hours ago

    :friedman:

    Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman has cast such a wide and diverse net in his search for a manager that it's easy to wonder if he has any idea what he's looking for.

    Actually, Friedman knows exactly what he's after. That would be information. That would be ideas. He's looking for a great manager, too, and he'll find one. But he has developed a process that does more than that.

    As Friedman goes down an interview list that now has at least 10 names on it, he is going to ask question after question, picking brains, exploring ideas. In doing this, he may have some of his beliefs challenged. Friedman may find out that another organization does something better than the Dodgers.

    This is one of the lessons Friedman brought to baseball from his time on Wall Street. He was taught to gather as much information as humanly possible and to keep an open mind about what might be useful. As one of Friedman's former co-workers said, "Andrew never passes up an opportunity to gather information."

    Friedman did this type of thing when he hired Joe Maddon to manage the Rays in 2005. Friedman's list included at least 10 names, from Bobby Valentine and Joe Girardi to Terry Pendleton, Bob McLaren and Alan Trammell.

    When Friedman left the Rays for the Dodgers after last season, his successor with Tampa Bay -- Matt Silverman -- interviewed 10 men before settling on Kevin Cash.

    In his current search with the Dodgers, Friedman has talked to men from a variety of backgrounds and with varying degrees of experience. Inside the industry, Gabe Kapler has been widely seen as the front-runner for the job from day one.

    Kapler played 12 seasons for six teams, including Friedman's Rays in 2009 and '10. He managed Boston's Class A Greenville team in '07 before resuming his playing career.

    Friedman was so impressed with Kapler's intelligence, people skills and ambition in their time together that he lured Kapler from a career in television to serve as the Dodgers' director of player development.

    If Kapler gets the job, it would be a reminder how much the role of managing has evolved in recent years. There are no walls between the manager and the people above him. More than ever before, it's a collaboration.

    Front offices -- OK, the smart ones -- offer their managers a mountain of data on lineups, matchups, defensive alignments, etc. Again, it's to offer a manager the best opportunity to make a smart decision. Rather than managing by feel or by gut, managing today is about quantifying decisions.

    As Rangers general manager Jon Daniels said, "Our manager can do anything he wants. But we'd like for him to have a reason for doing it."

    If this sounds like managers are less important than they were two decades ago, that would be incorrect. Managing a baseball team is still about dealing with people and about doing the things necessary to get a good, hard professional effort every single day.

    It's about creating an environment in which players are allowed to grow and also to put the team first. It's about an atmosphere in which a manager is able to convince his players that every decision he makes is what the skipper thinks is right for the team.

    Many teams prefer experienced managers, because the clubs have seen how these managers have handled tough times and uncomfortable situations. Do they keep their poise? Do they maintain the respect of their players?

    There's comfort in experience, and Friedman's interview list includes Bud Black -- a guy who has filled out 1,362 lineup cards and developed a sterling reputation for communicating with players and running a game. He would bring instant credibility to the clubhouse and be the safest choice from the candidate pool.

    Darin Erstad has gotten an interview as well. He's the University of Nebraska coach and a 14-year big leaguer who was a tough, intense competitor and a consummate professional.

    When a young outfielder named Hunter Pence was still figuring things out earlier in his career, the Astros signed Erstad as a free agent at the end of his career. In Erstad, they saw someone a lot like Pence, someone intense and borderline fanatical about his career.

    Houston thought Pence would benefit from playing with a kindred spirit, and all these years later, Pence probably would say that Erstad helped him become the player he has become.

    Erstad's hiring would not be a surprise to any of the people who played with him or got to know him through the years. Certain guys -- Mike Matheny and Brad Ausmus come to mind -- had a leadership aura around them when they played.

    Also on Friedman's list: Bob Geren, Dave Roberts, Tim Wallach, Ron Roenicke, Kirk Gibson and Dave Martinez.

    Geren, Gibson and Roenicke have Major League managerial experience. Martinez has been near the top of interview lists for a while. Roberts and Wallach were, like Kapler and Erstad, respected pros during their playing careers.

    And there could be others. Friedman has said he'd like to have a manager in place by next month's Winter Meetings in Nashville, Tenn. His challenge, he said, is to get it right.

    Maddon is Friedman's only previous managerial hire, so he has set the bar high for himself. But finding the right guy is only part of what this process is about. It's about finding other ways to make the Dodgers better.
     
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    I was going with the infield first.

    Then it'll be Reggie, Monday, Yeager, Thomas, Mota and Lacy. With a splash of Rhoden and Stan Wall.
     
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    KOUFAX0000 DSP Legend Damned

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    Roberts: Fyi DSP bkitches. I love Andre Ethier.

    And another thing. There's going to be a new Sheriff in town.


    That's right bkitches! A black Sheriff!

    But you can call me Blasian.




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    Weak
     
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    Racist!






     
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    IDK how hated or insignificant this guy Justice is considered, but I think that's very informative, and imparts a lot of important info as to what may be thinking process and criteria could be in the LAD managerial search.
    Also, I think the paragraphs reflecting the importance a manager has, whether it be pre-SABR, or right now, is exactly on point. I've read many times , after a few posts questioning Donnie's often, IMO, moronic moves, how unimportant managers are in the ultimate scheme of things..."they don't go out on the field and play" sort of stuff. And just how naiive that all is. How a person can feel that way, and support what the FO does, in light of Donnie's "exit", is very puzzling and a bit silly.
    Just as an aside, Maddon is so very well respected and all, and deservedly so, I imagine.
    But the Cubs flat out sucked and were spanked like a red-headed stepchild by the Mets...not one of Maddon's shining moments, I don't think.
    I know, first year with the team and all that...I get it. But they stunk up the place big time.
     
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    Considering the last two times the Dodgers chose a manager, it was done with pretty much just giving it to the guy, I like this process. I personally don't really mind if it drags out this month.

    I wouldn't want a limited number of candidates and missing out on someone great, and I wouldn't want it all based on just one interview by one person.

    I personally think a manager can fuck up a season more then he can help, so I want this done with a manager that hopefully stays here forever.
     
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    And I can't understand at this point, how one dude as opposed to another, is the "front runner".
    I've read three names already since the advent of LAD A.D. (after Donnie).
    How does this info create itself, I wonder?
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    speaking of which...

    Dodgers Poll: Fans prioritize Greinke over new manager
    by Anthony Irwin | Dodgers Nation — 34 minutes ago

    We polled fans on Twitter about what they believe is most important for their Los Angeles Dodgers to take care of. Their options: Re-signing Zack Greinke or hiring the right manager.

    A whopping 1,393 people voted, making this as good as almost any sports poll you’ll find on Twitter. The results are as follows:
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    You spoke, so we figured why not analyze each side of the issue.

    Finding The Right Dodgers Manager
    Here’s the thing: It’s been statistically shown over the last few years that managers make nowhere near the impact on games as we previously thought. It’s why the Washington Nationals were perfectly comfortable lowballing Bud Black in their negotiations.

    Why overspend on a manager when in terms of how aspects of the organization actually affect wins and losses, managers probably come after the front office and the actual talent on the field.

    All that said, while the on-field moves have been marginalized, there is something to be said about the next Dodgers manager starting on the same page as the front office.

    Does this mean the “puppet” narrative is fitting? Nope. But it does mean the front office is perfectly within its own right to prioritize how well the next manager work with them over whichever moves said manager might make during the course of a game and, by extension, the season.

    Find a manager is obviously important and the Dodgers are right to take their time and find the right fit. Compared to whatever talent they acquire or bring back this offseason at the top of the rotation, though, whoever is hired pales in comparison.

    Finding Or Replacing A High-Caliber Starter
    The easiest move here is to simply bring back Greinke and try to win a World series with his and Clayton Kershaw’s dominance Here’s the thing, though: it just doesn’t feel like that’s how teams are winning the nowadays.

    Look at the New York Mets’ rotation. Jason legroom and Noah Syndergaard for example. Both guys throw incredible stuff at batter simply hope to make contact. Once those guys get out of the game, though, momentum can shift a lot more easily than teams would like to admit.

    When the Mets played to Dodgers, it didn’t matter nearly as much seeing as there were gaping holes throughout the batter order.

    Against the insanely contact-happy Kansas City Royals, those Mets pitchers who got batters to miss almost whenever they desperately needed became slightly marginalized as the game got to the later innings and the they could only watch from the dugout.

    It’s why the Dodgers might be wondering how this plays out if they pass on the super-expensive pitchers they could sign for the type of pitcher who simply gets the game to the bullpen consistently.

    No matter what, though, it is going to be fun to see how Friedman and his team make a flawed roster work before they head into Spring Training.

    I, for one, though, will be paying more attention to how the pitching situation works out over whoever stands atop the dugouts steps next year. The game has changed, ever so slightly. It’ll be interesting to see if the Dodgers can keep up.​
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    i think this is a byproduct of today's "get it first" media
    guys want to toot their own horns [in retrospect] when the manager is eventually announced, screaming "see, i was right" to any poor fools willing to listen
    plashke anoints roberts out of his own personal preference and the lemmings scream "now roberts is the favorite"
    the talking media heads throw out their "sources say...", "word is...", "rumors are..." lead ins as gospel, but nowhere is there ever an actual person being quoted
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    lol
    at first i thought this might be our @THINKBLUE
    but then i noticed there was no mention of hoping someone got aids and died :poke:
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    Dave Martinez officially interviewing for the job. Get it done.
     
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    Latest On Dodgers’ Managerial Search
    November 6th, 2015 at 8:34pm CST • By Steve Adams
    Last month, the Dodgers and manager Don Mattingy mutually agreed to part ways, and since that time, the Dodgers have been conducting interviews to determine their next skipper. Farm director Gabe Kapler was said to be the early front-runner, although to this point, the Dodgers have also interviewed Padres bench coach Dave Roberts, Mets bench coach (and former A’s manager) Bob Geren and former big leaguer/current Nebraska head coach Darin Erstad. Last month’s updates on the search can be found here, and we’ll keep track of the November updates to the Dodgers’ managerial search in this post…

    • Los Angeles will interview Cubs bench coach Dave Martinez, Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reports. Martinez, of course, also served under Chicago skipper Joe Maddon with the Rays back when Friedman ran the baseball operations there. He joins a still-growing list of possible candidates for one of the game’s premium field staff positions.
    Earlier Updates

    • Former Diamondbacks skipper (and Dodgers World Series hero) Kirk Gibson will also interview for the job, ESPN.com’s Jim Bowden tweets. Gibson was diagnosedwith Parkinson’s earlier this year, and discussed his treatment and life with the disease recently with Scott Miller of Bleacher Report. Needless to say, it’s remarkable and encouraging to hear that he is well enough even to be considered for the position.
    • Bill Plaschke of the L.A. Times hears that Kapler is no longer the favorite. That distinction, Plaschke writes, instead goes to Roberts. According to Plaschke, Dodgers ownership voiced a strong preference for an honest managerial search instead of simply anointing Kapler, and Roberts “aced” his interview with Dodgers decision-makers. Of course, it’s also worth bearing in mind that Rosenthal’s recent update said the team was only half-done with its initial wave of interviews, so there’s still time for this to change.
    • Bud Black, whose reported deal with the Nationals fell through last night, will interview for the Dodgers’ vacancy, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). The Dodgers are about halfway through the interview process, according to Rosenthal, and the team could interview as many as 10 candidates
     
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    Dodgers to interview DSP's Irish and CBD for manager job.

    Add two more names to the long list of candidates for the Dodgers’ manager job, as TJ Simers of the Long Beach Press Telegram reports that DSP Nazi Irish and Chad Billingsley's Dad are
    Scheduled to interview with the Dodgers front office next week in a Sambo's in Downey.

    Where as neither has been considered a manager of a Sir Georges or even a Golf N Stuff for a while now, they both know Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman well from his fumbling of the roster since he took over control of the team. During which time they were the driving force of contempt (among a few others) towards Don Mattingly for the last four seasons. They join a lengthy list of candidates. Many with as much a chance as turning the team around as Grady Little would.

    Even so they'll face a lot of competition with the Dodgers options. Gabe Kapler and Dave Roberts have gained momentum as front-runners, but names like Bob Geren, Bud Black, Kirk Gibson, Tim Wallach, Ron Roenicke, and Darin Erstad (huh?) are also in the mix. When asked about his or CBD's chances of landing the job. Irish was quoted as saying. "I'm just honored to be considered for this great opportunity. Even though it's being handled by a bunch of fkucking racists".
     
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    plashke says i'm the new front runner
     
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    Kiss of death then....y'know, like " it was you Fredo"...
     
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    I'm really over this topic I think...


    just do it already
     
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    Once I become manager my first job will be to hire my coaching staff. Koyie Hill will be my bench coach and Mike Redmond will be the hitting instructor. Honeycutt will remain as pitching coach (unless he pisses me off) and Yeager remains catching coach. The first base job goes to Rickey Henderson who in lieu of relaying any signs, will simply shout "Run mothafucka!" And the all important 3rd base job goes to Capn Tree who will wildly wave all runners home while reminding them that their BA and RBI totals are in decline.
     
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