GAME THREAD DODGERS/ROCKIES

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Jun 5, 2016.

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  1. CapnTreee

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    Calhoun is the gung ho real deal

    and now he's gotten to protege under Trout he's only getting better
     
  2. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    But he probably cant stick at 2b.
    Seager at ss is not ideal and neither is stodgy calhoun next to him.
    We better be really good offensively.
     
  3. Bluezoo

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    Why is Seager not ideal at ss? Because he will go the 3b eventually?
     
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    Because all our 2b prospects are subpar defenders or plodders or both.
    And corey is not the quickest ss out there being how huge he is. And im guessing his agility will suffer as the years go on and he becomes even more strength based. Like all big ss that project more as 3b.
    If corey is our ss then ideally you want a solid gloved 2b with good lateral movement to help him on one side and a good fast defender in cf to have his back.
    But if our middle guys like cf 2b and ss are all high powered home run hitters im sure we can live with some subpar defense.
     
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  5. irish

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    whatever, keith law :smh:
     
  6. Doughty8

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    Not saying Law is the be all end all or that he is any good at all but he isn't unique in those thoughts of switching to 3B. It may be an archaic way of thinking as well but not unusual.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    it's just the easy route
    ripken and arod were bigger shortstops, hall of famers (sans ped's for arod)
    but he seems to forget about them
    btw he also said puig [before he debuted] was slow and had an average arm
     
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  8. Doughty8

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    They both moved to 3rd eventually. Time will tell if Correia and Corey go that route. Machado has already been moved.
     
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    cal didn't move to 3b until he was 35
    arod never played 3b before joining the yankees
    and his move there was to placate jeter more than anything
    machado has played more game at short this year than 3b
    you don't just move someone because they're bigger
    the tools/skills/footwork dictate that
    and i don't see anything indicating corey has shortcomings at short
    he may change positions when he gets older, but is that any different than any position player?
    george brett from 3b to 1b, rose from of to 1b, bench from c to 1b, etc.
    my problem is that keith law said corey didn't have good enough footwork to play short
    and that simply isn't true
     
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    WILLIE Calhoun.
    Not Kole Calhoun
    :laff:
     
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    Law smiled yesterday tho when LAD selected a SS in the 1st round
     
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    Heard an interview last year with Jose Vizcaino, who works in the Dodger front office. He was insistent and slightly indignant when asked about Seager's possible future move to 3B. He felt Seager has all the tools to play the position for many years.
     
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    You proved my point.
    Which btw was not this overreaching point.
    Just that eventually he would move to 3b. Not now or next year or 3 years from now.... But eventually. Nothing shocking there.
    Seager has an average arm and average quickness and is range limited by that and the physics of his large body. As he ages or bulks up or both that will only be more of an issue. His skill at ss should improve though any it may offset the physical aspects enough where he doesnt have to move.
    And thats the thing he doesnt have to move. As a ss his offense becomes a great boon to the team. Specially if they can pait him with another big hitting 3b. Its really not that much difference on a team with justin turner at 3b.

    These big ss you mentioned stayed at ss way past their fresh by date because they are stars.
    Matt Kemp didnt want to move from RF or CF because its a cachet thing.
    Their is pride and ego at work.
    Money too.
     
  14. Doughty8

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    Fair enough. 7 errors as of now, how many throwing or fielding I don't know but like I say Law IS NOT unique.
     
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    wasn't you point to be proven
    was responding to what doughty said
    and like i said, most players -- not just shortstops -- change positions as/when they get older
    and never ever compare seager to turner :nono:


    yeah, not thrilled on the errors
    especially the mental ones like last night
     
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    Sure a lot of players change position. Nobody was arguing that point. You building strawmen to fight.
    The point is that Seager as great as he is is not perfect and has less than stellar defense that may necessitate a move to 3b if it helps the team.
    Like if we drafted a great glove shortstop early who in 2 or 3 years was ready to join the the team and leadoff and we had poor 3b options then moving Seager would be advantageous.
    And we just drafted that guy and we are bereft of 3b in the minors and have years of patching the position with aging former middle infielders or journeyman castoffs.

    And doughty was seconding my post after you called me Keith Law :smh:
    How dare you!
     
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    rube law?... hmmm :scratchchin:
     
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    Obey!
     
  19. LAFord

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    Show him your Rubetube!
     

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