FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. BlueMouse

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    All kinds of contradictions on the political spectrum. I find it hard to imagine that anyone actually falls completely on the right or completely on the left for every issue.
     
  2. LAFord

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    Babies are innocent, criminals are not.

    Liberals tell us it is ok to murder unborn babies. So murder is only accepted when a doctor does it to an unborn baby, not to a criminal that has been proven guilty of unspeakable crimes against other humans. Now that's a contradiction.
     
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    when they do its typically a parody bereft of any actual thought
     
  4. rube

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    bullshit
    polio is long gone as a threat
    we are hyper careful on long gone epidemics and give two shits about all the new ones we start.
    like childhood obesity n diabetus n lymphoma
    in fact polio was never a problem in all of history
    the same chemical companies behind vaccines made a low level issue like polio into a major threat by weakening our bodies natural ability to defend itself

    I see vegan health nuts buying b12 supplements that are vaccines in a bottle.
    b12 is expensive to synthesize so manufacturers either sell you a bottle filled with true b12 for hundreds of dollars or they fill it with a tiny bit of b12 laced with cyanide.
    the body can only absorb a little b12 at a time so you need a large dose to get enough in.
    most is wasted though.
    but if you lace it with cyanide the toxin weakens your cell walls enough so you are able to absorb most of the tiny dose they sell you.
    and if you are a normal healthy person a little cyanide shouldn't do much to no damage says the same agrochemical company.
    thing is that most people are no longer that normal or healthy.
    specially those that need to take a b12 supplement to begin with.
    cyanide takes the place of the needle
    instead of spiking a blood vein they spike your blood cells.

    vaccines do you one better
    they strip away cell walls and dissolve the inner membranes using mercury and other poisons
     
  5. BlueMouse

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    Well, polio was a big deal. It's close to being eradicated thanks to vaccination.
     
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    Vaccinations rule. I enjoy living. Now the overprescribing of antibiotics is where we've fucked the pooch. Our asses are about to get superbugged.
     
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    I like you, please don't go.
     
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  8. rube

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    It didnt need to be eradicated.
    It was a minor vector like the millions if vectots there are.
    It attacks a weakened CNS.
    Humans and livestock became flooded by the biggest mass poisoning in the history of mankind during and following WW2.
    DDT stores in your fat and in animal fat and concentrates in mothers milk and daddies semen.
    DDT directly weakens the Central Nervous System. That is the Polio Epidemic.
    And the more they sprayed to kill the mosquitos the stronger the vector and the weaker our CNS.
    And this exact shit is how all of these things have always and will always happen.
    Its not the bugs that are scary its our reaction that is terrifying.
     
  9. TAFNAC

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    I think you have to vaccinate to go to most public schools, but I'm not 100% sure about that. That's akin to being forced to vaccinate if true.

    Homeschool. You get to keep the voucher money. Or hire a tutor to come teach your kid with the voucher money.
    If no education, then you don't get no voucher.
     
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  11. BlueMouse

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    I think you are correct. There is no federal law on this, but every state has laws governing vaccination and public school. You can receive exemption for things such as religious beliefs and medical conditions, but those exemption rules vary from state to state. When I lived in San Diego, 5 years ago, there was a push by people in the local community urging parents to exercise their exemption rights and not vaccinate their children - so I assume in San Diego it is relatively easy to get exempt status (or at least it was 5 years ago).

    Personally, I'm not a fan of a wide-spread voucher system. Then again, I'm not a fan of the private school system in general.
     
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    Why not?
     
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    I'm not a fan of our public school system. The US spends more than any other country (per student) education, and the results are mediocre. Something is very wrong and needs to be fixed. I have no faith in the government to fix itself, so not sure what to do other than open the system up to competition and market forces.
     
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    Btw, you are wrong on this. Whatever the medical facts are you wrote, accurate or not, polio, in the 50's was a horror and fear and a conversation every frightened mom at the baby station talked about.
    It absolutely did need to be eradicated, and Salk was hailed as hero when he developed the vaccine for it.
    I'm sure you won't agree, of course, but I saw the look on parent's faces, and what it meant to families to have that worry about " the minor vector" of poliomyelitis.
     
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    Market forces should never have anything to do with education.
    It is bad enough that the government provided/forced people into its own education system and removed from their minds the possibility of educating or seeking education for their own children.

    We dont live in an ideal world of course, but in the best case scenario the mother would be able to teach her son for his first 12 years of life all of the finer things that he needs to learn to be a human being. Then at 13 years old he has his bar mitzvah and its time to follow his dad around for a few years since now that he has learned to be a human being he can learn to be a man.
    But that would entail having a mother who is a human being and a father who is a real man.
    Which then by deduction you can tell who public schools are designed to educate. And many private as well.

    IMO public school should be compulsory at 7th grade and not at Kindegarten (its German name is telling)
    They give you two years to normalize your primary home education in order to prepare you for HS.
    If you are a high achiever you can start on HS level stuff right away, if not you get remedial classes to catch up.
    Grade 9 is 50% tradeskill learning and 50% regular education.
    Grade 10 should allow you to choose your own adventure. Either go 75% tradeskill or 25%
    Grade 11 should allow you to up it to 100% trade skill or 0.
    Which gives you the final two years two deeply study a trade or a classically liberal education.
    In those two years you can become a skilled solar electrician apprentice that simply meets a basic requirement of english/math//science/art.
    Or an english/math/science/art ace who only has a smattering of technical/trade knowledge enough so he isnt totally useless with his hands.
     
  16. rube

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    I said before ww2.
    After ww2 of course it was horrible. But nothing was eradicated. What was done is that people were made healthier and able to resist the vector again.
    You missed my point.
    Polio was not the problem. The chemicals you were being drugged with was the problem.
    Which is the theme of the conversation regarding vaccines.
    They put harmful chemicals in them.
    If they would have stopped spraying DDT everywhere sooner then polio would have quieted back down.
    It is no coincidence that the rise of the polio vaccine coincided with the reduction in use of DDT.
    Reducing the use of DDT was way more important in the controlling of polio than the vaccine.
     
  17. BlueMouse

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    In most cases, private school teachers and staff are paid less than public school teachers and staff. For many people who work in schools, private school jobs are considered entry-level because they pay less and require less education/credentials. So, on average, a private school teacher is less experienced than a public school teacher.

    Also, some private schools actively encourage exclusion of lower performing students, then advertise the artificially high test scores of their students, which is a bit fucked up and misleading.

    These observations come from my wife who works in schools.

    That's not to say private schools don't have any positives and that all are bad. Some have specialized curriculum or programs that parents find important. And I'm sure there are great private schools, but the common perception that private schools are always better than public schools, is flawed. What has been your experience with Public vs Private?

    Another "advantage" of private school (while not necessarily in the best interest of the public as a whole, but a reason why many people send their children to private school) is segregation. Primarily segregation by socio-economic status or religious affiliation.
     
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    wow talk about ass backwards
    parents pay more for private schools
    and end up with less qualified teachers
     
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    My mother was a kindergarten teacher at LAUSD for many years and was instrumental in introducing SRLDP in the late 70's. Upon her retirement, she received a letter of commendation from the mayor and the head of the LA City council. She also taught at a private school. TBT about the pay but that is not to say that entry level LAUSD teachers are any better, since the higher pay is mainly associated with their willingness to work in the more dangerous public schools for $. As far as my personal experiences, I tried REALLY HARD to keep our son in mainstream public schools but the services, the GROSSLY inexperienced special ed teachers, as well as the fact he was bullied, forced me to put him into a private school. He is on a certificate (not HS diploma) path and as such, will stay there until age 22, receiving vocational training. He has been there for going on 4 years now and has flourished.

    Starting in 8th grade, I myself went to a private prep school to avoid de-segregation, as well.

    YMMV
     
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    LAUSD schools are paid a lot of money per student by the city gov too, in fact, when developing publicly funded, non taxable RE development projects I have had to enter into P.I.L.O.T. (Payment in lieu of tax) agreements and paid high 6 figures directly to the local school districts in which they were built.

    The corruption runs deep. Here's one for ya'! When I was working with the Gates Foundation on an Autism related project through CAA, the director told me that she had offered to donate 2MM worth of computers to the Compton School District and the superintendent flat out refused to take them, demanding the 2MM in cash so they could buy them instead, "bc they knew better". She wouldn't give them the money and tried and tried to give them the computers but they scoffed and wouldn't take them, and even played a veiled race card. Who suffered on that one? Inner city corruption leading straight to racial inequality in the hood. Can't blame the POTUS for that one! :mad:
     

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