The GUERRERO Thread

Using career stats is lame. Giambi is a career .278/.401/.519 hitter. Kelly Johnson is hitting .229 with a .310 OBP and poor defense since the beginning of 2011. He has a 93 OPS+ in that time, which is the same as Mark Ellis, who can actually play defense.

 

I said to the guy "I'll leave it at this, 40 years from now you'll be telling your grandkids you saw Joey Votto play, not Brandon Phillips."

 

Racist

 

Votto's Canadian though

 

Fuck yes. This is awesome. Pretty excited about the guy

 

i don't either guy fits the category of " guys you'll tell your grandkids about "

 

Joey Votto is going to be a Hall of Famer at his current pace

 

i don't disagree with that. if it's a current Reds' fan telling his grandkids, ok

but if it's just an all around MLB fan, i don't think so. he's great, but it's not like Votto is Frank Thomas or anything

 

btw

bout to spend a lil do-rey-mi

 

1) He was a Reds fan 2) Votto is slightly worse but not substantially worse than Frank Thomas. Worse hitter, much better fielder.

 

so first we have a Braun thread and now we turn a Dodgers thread into a Reds thread???

wow, we do like to get off-railed...

and no one will remember Votto either... the only current players people will talk about in 40 years are Kershaw, Trout and Cabrera... oh, and Mariano, but he's in overtime...

 

again, that's fine

and 3) Votto won't be a guy that most MLB fans are telling their grandkids about. those guys are rare and he's not doin it like that. Ricky Henderson, Frank Thomas, Junior Griffey...current day example - Cabrera

 

Really excited for this move! Now we don't have to worry about signing Cano for 20 years!

 

as am i. maybe Ellis will stick around next year as a trusty bench guy. like to keep him around.

 

agreed, cuz guerrero is an unknown. While it's nice for us to assume he's going to come in and beast it like Puig, reality is its not that easy and probably unlikely. He hit .290 in his last year he played, which is about 70 points lower than Puig did in Cuba I believe.

I'm hopeful, but we'd be stupid to just give an unproven guy the keys and not have a plan b

 

Canadian isn't a race

 

Using stats for your advantage is lame.

His OPS for the past 3 years is .758, higher than all but one year (2007) for Mark Ellis. Johnson's OBP is only .006 behind Ellis, while his SLG is .075 higher, for a net difference of 0.69, statistically very relevant, in Johnson's favor.