Ethier back at it...

My B. I wouldn't trade him though just saying

 

Ty Cobb was an asshole too.... Some guys play better with chips on their shoulders. Whatever it takes....

 

You guys would be all fired up if it were Matty saying these comments. This is why I love Dre, because he tells it how it is. Trading Andre would have to be the most idiotic thing we've done since trading Paul Lo Duca and Guillermo Mota for Brad Penny.

 

yeah, when we traded LoDuca the synthetic production went way down.....

 

But it wasn't Matt who had the diarrhea of the mouth...it's Dre...again.
You can love the shit out of him, that's cool...and it's not about trading him--that isn't on the horizon at all , IMO...it's about him shutting the fuck up. Ten million dollars, man. Shut the FUCK UP.
Play ball, get your shit together. Earn your 10 million. Go to work...rake up there; square it up--help the team win.
Everybody knows the ownership sucks...what is this, a news flash? A scoop from Dre? Bulletin?
I's old shit and it will be changed shortly. A bunch of dead old crap from the LFer millionaire. Tell us what your going to do to improve over last year...yeah...like Matty does.
That's what fans should want to hear...not this boring shit again.

 

If he hates ownership he should say that instead of showing disinterest in everything.

 

Isn't the link this thread about focused on what Dre didn't say and not what he did!

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-report/post/_/id/170/andre-ethier-is-in-camp

Ethier eventually got around to saying he feels fine now, but not before responding to a friendly greeting of, “Did you have a good winter?'' with a curt, “We're not here to talk about that.'' He later responded to another question about why he was being so abrupt by saying, “I'm not your buddy. You're not my buddy. We're not going to sit here and have a bar-type conversation.''

Ethier, who publicly voiced his displeasure at the end of spring training last year at not having received a multiple-year contract, also didn't want to discuss his current contract status to any great degree. He avoided arbitration this winter by agreeing to terms on a one-year, $10.95 million contract. He will be eligible for free agency after this season unless the Dodgers sign him to a long-term deal before that, something general manager Ned Colletti has said he is open to discussing.

Simple logic would suggest, though, that such discussions won't take place until after the sale of the club is complete.

“I can't tell you anything about any of that,'' Ethier said. “I'm just here today to play baseball and help the team win. I'm here for today. I lifted some weights, I ran the bases, and I hit some balls off a tee. … I can't control the past or control the future. The only thing I can control is the way I play right now.''

Ethier said he has been swinging a bat for “a while,'' declining to specify when he began doing so. Ethier tends to be his own worst critic, and he did say he didn't feel good about the way he was swinging in the cage on Saturday.

 

Who cares. At all. The media deserves to be treated like shit.

 

Are you joking? Penny was ridiculously good for us for a long stretch.

 

Ridiculously good does not equal a 4.09 ERA

A long stretch does not equal 3.5 seasons

What are you talking about? He had a good season, two decent ones, and a bad one. That trade cost us that season, when at the time we were the best team in baseball.

 

"long stretch" can mean different things, I was referring to his 12-1 start to a 2006 or 7, not a long stretch relative to his career.

Last part is absurd. We still won the division, how did that trade cost us that season? He didnt have an immediate impact after he was acquired but it was still a trade that ended up making sense.

 

So you were justifying a trade based on 13 decisions? That makes sense...

And we replaced a .301/.351/.444 catcher with David Ross who hit .171 and Brent Mayne who was even worse. We won the division in spite of that trade, and got killed in the playoffs without two starters and our second best reliever.

Can I ask how old you are? Because even at 14 I remember that season and how much worse off the team was after that deal, it was like a different team, and I'm sure all of the guys around here will attest to that.

 

Nope, I was merely pointing out that he was stupendous for significant parts of his time here. Obviously he was bad in others. Overall he was a productive player who produced over 11 WAR in his 3.5 seasons in LA and was a top 3 Cy finisher in one of those seasons. My only point was that acting it was an Ethier/Bradley type deal didnt do Penny's contributions justice.

I'm 16. I still remember every season from 2001 on vividly, so that's not a problem. Guys like Odalis Perez, Brian Jordan, Andy Ashby, Omar Daal, Kaz Ishi, Shawn Green, Nomo, Lo Duca, Dave Roberts. Then guys like Mike Kinkade, Chad Hermanson, Jason Grabowski and all the clowns that were on the bench during that time. Let's see...Burnitz and Henderson as well. I was there for Lo Duca's sliding catch into the dugout. So yeah no issues with my memory on those seasons despite how young I was. And statically they were still a good team after the trade.

 

From 2006-2009 Bradley hit .289/.398/.483 in 1650 PA's

Also, that makes sense. That was a trade that clearly changed the course of the season, similar to the Rasmus deal except the opposite, nothing on paper can represent how detrimental that deal was to our season. And I know you say you vividly remember it, but you were 9 or 10 years old.

 

bcransom is 16? damn I thought you were like 40 lol

 

Ethier should have have been traded a year and a half ago but instead we held on to him too long. There are only two options at this point. Extend him long term and hope his mouth quiets while his bat speaks or trade him midseason to a contender that has high ceiling close to the majors prospects. I am ready for a contender that lasts longer than one or two years. We need consistency.