2021/22 OFFSEASON NEWS AND RUMORS THREAD

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by lastatman, Oct 5, 2021.

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which free agents will the dodgers re-sign?

  1. scherzer

    50.0%
  2. taylor

    90.0%
  3. seager

    10.0%
  4. kenley

    40.0%
  5. kershaw

    50.0%
  6. pujols

    10.0%
  7. kelly*

    40.0%
  8. knebel

    60.0%
  9. souza

    10.0%
  10. nelson

    10.0%
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  1. Gebbeth

    Gebbeth DSP Legend

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    Well bad mouthing the wrong guy as a member of the teamsters will end up with you in the end zone of some football stadium. There’s your freedom of speech for you.
     
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    Walking in lock step with the PC cunts in power and cowering in fear about saying what you believe in is reminiscent of just a few other dark chapters in history, too. Just a few.
    And Hoffa was as much a criminal as those who had him whacked...apples and oranges.
    ..
     
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  3. rube

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    Myths exist because people perpetuate them which causes hearers to believe and fear them.

    Your logic is no good even if we go with the teamsters being the mob.
    The mob is a cult.
    And you can't compare the motivations of a cultist with that of a citizen, villager or peasant.
    In regular society you should bee able to speak truth to power without power exercising force.
    Force of any kind is abuse of power in response to truth.

    If the response to freedom is force then you know it's a trick and you been eating the treat.
     
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    Ummm….dude, say anything you want. You’re missing the point. Don’t always expect to keep your employment when you do.

    I respect Ken for what he did, but even he would probably agree that he didn’t expect to get off Scott free.

    It’s more admirable that someone knows the consequences of speaking their minds, and says what they mean anyway, using their own names, and putting their livelihoods on the line.
     
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    I actually agree with your initial take on this. Like BZoo, I'm disgusted that Rosenthal got fired for speaking up & out, but I get it and it is just another reason why pro sports for me are dead.

    Then again, as much as I detest Manfred as the douchebag fuck that he is, I'm fairly certain that old timer Kennesaw Mountain Landis would've probably had Rosenthal gutted like a perch for this a hundred years ago.

    So much for the good old days.
     
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    The difference between Rosenthal and Manfred is that Rosenthal actually likes the sport of baseball. I'm sure Ken was well aware of the repercussions of going against the clown but he didn't give a shit because he's beyond frustrated with the current state of the sport and knew he would have the backing of the entire baseball community that despises Manfred.
     
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    Then, like John said, " a working class hero is something to be"...
     
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    Based on bargaining agreement info I've read, it appears that MLB is not only a fen of greed, on both sides, it is headed for a moronic result...if any at all.
    Disgusting and disappointing, especially when a fragile player like Seager can get a third of a billion dollars, probably propped up by the extended playoff format on it's inevitable way.
    Soon, mediocrity will be the top of the bar, at least enough, with .500 W/L teams the new annual participants. Every season.
    Why not just award everyone a participation trophy ?
     
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    [QUOTE=" the entire baseball community that despises Manfred.[/QUOTE]

    Except Doc Roberts.
     
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    Thank you Hall of Famer voters who kept B*nds and Clemens out of Cooperstown. Bonds and Clemens have no one to blame but themselves for this situation. They were HOF before they chose to break the rules.
     
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    Wow...
    I guess Buster got out just in time...
    His piss tests in the future will be to determine how severe his enlarged prostate is.
    And the money tree in the garden helps, too.
    Lucky, lucky boy..
    Oh, and lest forgotten, congratulations to testes and anus tanning titan Gabe Kapler, who was universally excoriated here by all when his name came up for 15 seconds when LA was considering him before they arrived at their hiring the Rosetta Stone of managers, Dave Roberts...
    Oh, kudos to you too, Barry...hold Jeff Kunt's beer while he finishes his dirt biking...
     
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    I logged on just to gripe about this article: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...rry-bonds-roger-clemens-wouldnt-get-voted-in/ Your post gave me a good springboard.

    First of all, the author, Matt Snyder seems over-the-top butt-hurt that Bonds and Clemens won't get in. Boo-fucken-hoo.

    He talks about how the Hall is already filled with players who'll never be candidates for sainthood. Yeah, you know what? Bonds is an ass. He was always an ass. Having grown up in the area, I have friends that knew him at Serra HS, and they'll tell you to a man that his doucheness was strong even back then. Is that why he shouldn't be in the Hall? Not at all. I don't need to feel good about the personalities of players who were otherwise best at the game.

    What is inexcusable is the degree to which Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, McGwire et al changed the game by cheating. It's akin to why players aren't allowed to bet on baseball - cue Pete Rose. Snyder makes the point that Bonds won 7 MVPs, while the next most is 3, and Clemens was awarded 7 CY's, while the next highest is 5. He speaks as if this should support their eligibility for the HOF, when actually it demonstrates the degree to how much their cheating helped them. Sure, Bonds may have had a Hall-worthy career if he played it clean, but I can assure you he would've been nowhere near 7 MVPs. That's the effect of steroids - the gravity of this form of cheating dwarfs anyone playing on amphetamines or alcohol or anything else. The record books are now permanently skewed - most MVPs, most CYs, most HRs career, most HRs season, highest OBP... the list goes on and on. The black mark left on the game by Bonds and Clemens and company will be there to the end of time.

    So yeah, I'm loving the fact that their careers won't be celebrated in the ultimate way. And if Snyder wants to take his ball and go home, so be it.
     
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    I have no problem with Bonds and Clemens being left out but why is Ortiz in the HOF? He was a positionless player who cheated. Is it because he smiled a lot and was more likable in the eyes of the media? I don’t get it. David Ortiz doesn’t belong in the HOF.
     
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    What kind of a dick gets voted off his college team?
    http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/060504
     
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    Ha! I never heard that story, but none of it surprises me. Well actually, it sounds like his dad was a dick, too, which I wouldn't have guessed.

    The funny thing is that one of my buddies that knew him told me he would refer to himself in the 3rd person in just casual conversation, too. That wasn't just a thing he did with the press during interviews.

    Clearly he's one of those people that basically felt he could do anything he wanted to without consequence, which is why the HOF snub is so noteworthy.
     
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    totally agree and have an issue w politics keeping Schilling out unless he was roiding
    ortiz and ramirez w poster roid boys im0
     
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    That is exactly why Ortiz is in the HOF.
    Who votes on the HOF? A bunch of idiots whose opinions don't matter but also have their own personal agendas.
     
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    How many MVP votes are going to go against Rodgers for the sole purpose he is not vaccinated? At least 1 confirmed MVP voter said Rodgers isn't the MVP because he is a jerk for not being vaccinated.
     
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    Politics didn’t keep him out. Being an unlikeable douche kept him out.
     
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    by that measure a whole lot of guys shouldn't be in there including Cobb
    performance on the field should be the only parameter unless you murdered or raped someone
    doesn't matter though its been a long time since any HOF was relevant
     
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