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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by THINKBLUE, Oct 15, 2015.

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  1. Fall Winslow

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    People havin a GOOD laugh @ Fetters in an alumni game, dude's so ridiculous

     
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    Wish some other team would sign Kendrick already.
     
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    There hasnt been a player good enough to reach an all star game to play his entire career and retire as a dodger for a long time.
    Ethier can retire as a Dodger and play out his contract as a platoon OF who gets the starts against RP in LF.

    Keep Micah out of LF if you can. We need a better hitter with more power out there. Joc is already a sort of a liability.
    The FO likes super utility men and Micah can be one of those if he can learn to handle CF adequately enough to give Joc off days.
    He hits line drives has little power but knows how to take pitches and get on base then use his above average speed to score runs,
    It sucks having no HR power but if he can be a legit leadoff hitter and can play better defense than Kike, old Utley or hobbled Turner then he is the best choice to start at 2B and be the leadoff guy.
    Corey is probably best to hit 2.
    I really like Turner but we should have someone with more power to drive in runs batting 3.
    Puig would be given a lot of confidence to be trusted with the 3 spot.
    Gonzales at 4 is obvious.
    Then Turner/Utley/Kike batting 5
    Followed by Ethier/Trayce/SVS
    With by Joc/Trayce/Micah
    And Grandal/Ellis/Barnes


    So if we are fortunate our offense for next year...

    2B: Micah is maybe another Delino DeShields
    SS: Corey is the second coming of Cal Ripken jr.
    RF: Puig could be the OF version of Adrian Beltre or a Raul Mondesi
    1B: Adrian Gonzales aging gracefully
    3B: Turner is like a poor mans Chase Utley being backed up by an aging Chase Utley
    LF: Ethier is aging fine and is a stopholder for Trayce who is insurance for Joc
    CF: Joc is a big athletic Adam Dunn that traded some power for a glove
    C : Between our crop of good catchers there is enough to never have a problem

    I think lots of runs eh?
    And all those pitchers they are signing will give us a lot of good relievers to get to Kenley.
     
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    The run prevention force is not strong with Johnson @ 2B at all and up the middle D has been a focal point as of late, even allowing a valuable righty bat like Howie's to leave because of the cracks he showed on defense.
    So long as Corey's bat is manning SS and they have that luxury they can afford to be a little different in regards to construction, especially if it's the leadoff role being squared away.
    Being a platoon guy with this particular FO is certainly one thing Ethier has going for him tho, they can't get enough.
     
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    At some point, if the price drops, why not bring him back on a 1-year deal?
     
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    And that's why AJ gets offered some sort of coaching position right out of the gate because of CK. He'll be Vice Coach's Assistant of Baseball Propinquity or whatever title they make up next. Hell be on the field doing something I think.
     
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    Word.
    I believe the same, AJ will be staying in the org somehow unless he decides himself that he's done being CK's mini-me
     
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    Because the compensation draft pick will provide more value than he would playing over Kike, and back-to-backs or whatever the fuck he's called now Hard Work HK gimmick is unbearably stupid.
     
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    Going to upset IBB. I'm still a little bitter we gave up a spark plug and personal favorite in Dee Gordon, for a year of an average, unexciting and even somewhat boring second baseman. I'm becoming a bitter old fuck like that, didn't like HK and his stupid Angel face.
     
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    :eek: Well, I never! :D



    Somebody out there hates both Ethier AND Kendrick?
    Rare...respect, no one's safe. Lol
    Now that I think about it, I've never even seen a Howie hater
    You may be crowned most diabolical hater with that one :bow:


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    Something would have to be really wrong with Howie if he's to the point of taking a 1yr pact.
    Would hate to see that, good dude.
    Somebody's at least gotta give him a DH role on a multi-year deal, maybe let him play LF for a little while like the Halos did.
    Pretty fucked up, considering all the damage he did with the bat coming through again and again
    His .360/.398/.480 line with RISP was about as OG as it gets
     
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    Seeing what happens with Howie Kendrick will be interesting from a baseball perspective. I believe we've already seen an uptick in players accepting the QO, and if guys like HK struggle to sign contracts it makes sense that we'll see more QO's accepted in the next few years. Teams are valuing draft picks more and aging players less (in this post-steroid era). With players more likely to accept qualifying offers we should see a swing from the other side, teams being more discerning about who they offer QO's. It's an interesting little give and take game that is in flux.
     
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    There was a report yesterday saying that there is a lot of support for the DH getting going in 2017. I guess if they are going to do it, they just want to get the ball rolling ASAP. As for Johnson, I have high hopes for the dude, but he's probably a utility player at this point in his career and maybe even a Quad A guy if he can't get his bat and glove to work at the MLB level. He had a really bad run at it in the majors last season and should in no way be considered for a role on the MLB roster until he can show that he can get the glove to work at 2B, otherwise he'll have to move to the OF and hope the bat can play at the big league level. If they try him at 2B and it is a failure, we may not see him at the big league level until later in 2017 if at all.
     
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    Another big factor in the mix is how the QO is based, averaging the top 125 salaries from the previous year. The QO is an ongoing upward spiral and will no doubt continue to affect both how many are offered and how many are accepted.
     
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    Unless he comes at some crazy discount, I just don't see the team retaining him. If his D continues the decline we saw in 2015, then I would rather have the extra pick.
     
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    Word? I missed that one.
    I'm all in on keeping Ethier and SVS if that's what they're shooting for, that seems like the DH combo with Adrian sliding in now and again of course.
    As far as Johnson goes, I'm with what some of the scouts believe in that he'll end up in the OF with that speed/range.
    Want more, but at the very least he could be a Dyson, maybe not as much with the glove, but on the bases.
    If the DH does come into play in 2017 and they're able to add that bat + have Corey's bat at SS, I really wouldn't mind having my leadoff guy in the corner OF/power spot, so long as he's capable at the plate and getting on base.
    Royals and Giants have pretty much proven that it's less about power and more about approach and fit in this clean era, so I'm not power crazy even though they should continue to hit HRs.
    I just want dudes to be sound.
    A guy gets a double to lead off an inning, move him over however you have to do it and score him from 3B with less than 2 outs...stop all this striking out with a man on 3B and less than 2 outs, shit drives me crazy more than anything else.
    Productive outs, we need'em.
    But of course not everyone is solid or takes the league by storm in their initial call up, which you could argue Trayce was actually doing for a moment/to a degree after he came up, he was excellent, but doesn't project to be that going forward.
    Interested in seeing if Johnson can rebound and solidify a role that we really need solidified, the tools are there.
     
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    Mets, Cespedes Discussing Three-Year Deal With Opt-Out Clause
    By Steve Adams | January 22, 2016 at 8:01am CST

    While the Nationals are said to have made a five-year contract offer to Yoenis Cespedes, ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that the Mets are now discussing a three-year contract which would include an opt-out provision after the first year of the deal (Twitter link). Olney also tweets that the expectation among some involved in the discussions is that Cespedes will make a decision within 24 to 48 hours.




    Cespedes playing them against one another, tryin to get his Greinke on?
     
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    Pretty much the same here, I think going forward as the QO rises that fewer will be offered (depending on the FA market that particular year) because the probability that they get accepted goes higher.
     
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    He'd be a damn fool if he didn't.
     
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    Seager can double down on his strong start
    by Eric Stephen | True Blue LA — 4 hours ago

    Corey Seager is one of the keys to the Dodgers offense in 2016, though it is probably wise to temper expectations heading into his first full major league season.

    Seager was the Dodgers' best hitter in September once he was called up, hitting .337/.425/.561 with 13 extra-base hits in 27 games. It is unfair to expect that type of production from Seager or any rookie over a full season, but that is obvious. Pitchers will adjust to Seager, and he will need to adjust back, and that game of cat-and-mouse will continue.

    Projection systems are bullish on Seager, arguably the top prospect in baseball this season. Marcel projects Seager to hit .294/.365/.478, ZiPS has him hitting .266/.311/.447 in 2016, and Steamer pegs Seager as a .265/.315/.423 hitter this season.

    Those numbers seem much more reasonable to expect from Seager this season, and that would be just fine. Dodgers shortstops as a whole in 2015 — Jimmy Rollins started 128 times at short, Seager made 21 starts at the position, Kiké Hernandez started 11 times, and one start each for Justin Turner and Darwin Barney — hit just .246/.317/.399, so there is room for improvement.

    But this is less about what to expect from Seager overall in 2016, and more about one specific area where even a relatively normal expected output from Seager could result in a spot in the franchise record book.
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    For more than a century, dating back to 1914, there have been only been six seasons in which a Dodgers player hit at least 30 doubles as a shortstop. The highest is 35 doubles by Pee Wee Reese in 1954. The only one of the six younger than 28 was Cesar Izturis, who hit 32 doubles in 2004 at age 24.

    Seager turns 22 on April 27.

    Lowering the bar a bit, there have only been 14 seasons of 25 or more doubles by a Dodgers shortstop, including five by Reese, four years by Bill Russell and a pair by Rafael Furcal.

    Since moving into Dodger Stadium in 1962, Dodgers shortstops have hit 1,235 doubles (just under 23 per season), ranking 21st in baseball during that span. Problem is, there were only 20 teams in MLB in 1962. Even the Expos/Nationals have more doubles from their shortstops than the Dodgers, and they didn't start as a franchise until 1969.

    Dodgers shortstops have only five more doubles than the Padres since 1962, and San Diego didn't exist as a major league city until seven years later, also in 1969. The point is, Dodgers shortstops rarely hit doubles. But that could change very soon.

    Seager hit 50 doubles between Class-A Rancho Cucamonga and Double-A Chattanooga in 2014, then tallied 37 more between Double-A Tulsa and Triple-A Oklahoma City in 2015. He followed that with eight doubles in the majors, a pace of 43 two-baggers over a full season.

    Again, it probably isn't reasonable to expect 40 or more doubles from Seager in 2016, but 25 sure seems doable, with 30 doubles looming as a very attainable goal. That alone would be notable as a Dodgers shortstop.

    For what it's worth, ZiPS has Seager hitting 38 doubles in 2016, Steamer projects 31, and Marcel predicts only 14 doubles, but in 257 plate appearances, less than half the playing time of the other two projection systems.

    Just for fun, should Seager go off in 2016, the Dodgers rookie record holder for doubles in a season, from any position, is Johnny Frederick, who hit 52 doubles in 1929. That also stands as the major league record for doubles by a rookie. No pressure or anything, kid.
     
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