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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    plaschke so fwiw...

    Dodgers need to trade for another ace, which they failed to do last year
    by Bill Plaschke | Los Angeles Times — 12 hours ago

    A barking line of dogs paraded through the Dodger Stadium field before Saturday’s game, but the upcoming midseason break is an entirely different animal.

    It feels like groundhog day.

    The Dodgers are in the same needy spot as last July. A playoff team that needs starting pitching. Only a handful of games behind the best teams in baseball, but at least one strong arm away from a competitive autumn.

    It’s just like last season, only minus Clayton Kershaw for a least a month and Zack Greinke for at least forever.

    It’s groundhog day, only more desperate, which means it’s even more ominous, because everyone knows what happened last year.

    Nothing happened. Cole Hamels didn’t happen. Johnny Cueto didn’t happen. David Price didn’t happen.

    Hoping to protect the organization’s top prospects, baseball boss Andrew Friedman bypassed the available stars and chose instead to build a cheap and rickety bridge to October. That bridge eventually collapsed under the weight of Mat Latos and Alex Wood, leaving the team in another pile of smoldering playoff dust.

    Think the Dodgers could have used Hamels? Since being acquired by the Texas Rangers at last year’s deadline, Hamels is 16-3 with a 3.41 earned-run average while leading the Rangers to the best record in the American League.

    Maybe the Dodgers needed Cueto? Since last year’s trading deadline, even though he struggled during the regular season in Kansas City, he’s a combined 17-8 with a 3.34 ERA while winning a World Series game with the Royals and leading the San Francisco Giants to the best record in baseball.

    How about David Price, would that have worked? He was traded to Toronto, ended up in Boston, and during that time is 17-7 with a 3.73 ERA.

    So here we are again, and Dodgers fans can only hope that, in his second season, Friedman has a better understanding of this market’s win-now mandate and can use his giant brain trust — the Dodgers have more “general managers” than bench players — to figure out how to fill a hole that remains even deeper than ever.

    With Kershaw’s injury and Greinke’s absence, the Dodgers will not win a playoff series without a least one more veteran front-line starter, if not two. If it was true last year, it’s absolutely true this year, placing serious pressure on Friedman to throw what would be the biggest pitch of the season.

    And, no, don’t buy the recent spin out of Chavez Ravine that Hyun-Jin Ryu and Brandon McCarthy are the answer. Having witnessed each of their most recent starts, the guess here is that their full recoveries from shoulder and elbow surgeries won’t happen until next season.

    On Thursday, in his first game since the end of the 2014 season, Ryu struggled with his velocity in allowing the San Diego Padres six runs in 4 2/3 innings. The Dodgers said they loved his peformance, although observers weren’t exactly sure why.

    On Saturday, in his second start after sitting out more than a year because of elbow ligament-replacement surgery, McCarthy allowed the Padres three runs in five innings and was pulled after 77 pitches in the Dodgers’ 4-3 victory.

    The ticket-holding dogs who filled the pavilion as part of the “Pups at the Park’’ promotion had barely been ordered to “sit’’ before McCarthy allowed a first-inning walk to Travis Jankowski and a two-run homer to Yangervis Solarte. Then, as soon as the Dodgers took a 3-2 lead in the fourth, McCarthy gave it back in the fifth by allowing a couple of hits featuring a soft run-scoring single to center by Jankowski.

    “Today I felt like I was throwing a football,’’ said McCarthy, who broke enough tackles to get the win after the Dodgers took the lead in the bottom of the fifth.

    Added Manager Dave Roberts: “He really didn’t have command of much today. To expect him to be sharp as he hits the ground running is unfair.’’

    Unfair for McCarthy, unfair for Ryu, and unfair to the Dodgers relievers. The early exit by McCarthy meant that the Dodgers haven’t had a seven-inning outing from a starter not named Kershaw since May 14, and are without a seven-inning outing from Kershaw since June 20.

    Enter the bullpen, which has been brilliant, but which is also been increasingly overworked. The once-maligned group began the day leading the National League relievers with a 2.89 ERA and an amazing .199 batting average by opponents. But the Dodgers relievers also ranked sixth in the league with 293 innings, one of only two teams in the top six with a winning record. They have pitched in nearly 50 more innings than the bullpen of the division-leading Giants.

    “You do see the innings start to accumulate, you take the first half to the second half, that’s a lot of innings,’’ said Roberts.

    Roberts said he feels that if the team’s starters were all healthy and at at full speed, the team wouldn’t need another starter, but that’s not going to be the case. Ryu and McCarthy won’t be truly back until next year. The Dodgers need somebody, or somebodies, now.

    “This is not a group of five horses that are healthy and happy and have been here all year,’’ McCarthy said. “It’s guys that are kind of, it’s a real hodgepodge.’’

    This year’s trading deadline was pushed back to Aug. 1 so it doesn’t occur on a busy Sunday. This means Friedman will be working on an extra day’s rest, and here’s hoping he uses it. The Dodgers need another ace, all right, and it needs to be him.
     
  2. LASports96

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    This trade deadline is going to be really interesting... their isn't a major glaring hole on this team right now but their are some upgrades out there...

    With Trayce coming back to Earth + Ethier still not close to coming back maybe we can use an OF? But Howie is also hitting now too
    We have A LOT of arms for the rotation and only so many roster spots but upgrades are out there
    We could probably use a dominate 8th inning pen arm but then again the pen has been the best part of this team in 2016
     
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    A’s Reddick could hit the trade market
    by Courtney Schellin | ESPN — 43 minutes ago

    It looks like Oakland Athletics outfielder Josh Reddick may become one of the top trade prospects after all. According to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco chronicle, the A’s have not resumed contract talks with Reddick, increasing the already strong chances of the team trading him.

    “The outfielder was offered a three-year, $36 million deal during the spring, sources confirmed, and Reddick’s representatives countered with four years and $56 million, which is considered below Reddick’s market value by at least $5 million to $10 million,” writes Slusser. “Reddick might even have been convinced to remain at four years and $50 million to $52 million, according to sources with knowledge of the talks, but with no discussions since, it’s apparent the A’s are unwilling to go four years.”

    The market won’t offer many outfielders this season, making Reddick an even hotter trade item. Teams that would be interested in the outfielder that may actually get him include the Kansas City Royals, San Francisco Giants, Chicago Cubs, Los Angeles Dodgers, Toronto Blue Jays and Washington Nationals.
     
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    • The Dodgers will consider dealing Yasiel Puig before the August 1 deadline, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports suggests. Whether they actually do deal him could depend, however, on the timing of Andre Ethier’s return and whether they acquire another outfielder.
     
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    Puig centered package for beltran, miller...:pray:
     
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    Ugh... I just can't take someone seriously who has complete disrespect for paragraphs. All that white space is blinding. Plaschke always has been and always will be a hack. I'm not saying we couldn't use another starter, everyone could use another starter - I'm just saying I hate Plaschke and his writing style

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    retarded.
     
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    I'm guessing then that e.e. cummings is not your favorite poet...?
     
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    I'm not familiar with Cummings *snicker*, but dramatic pauses and odd spacing is fine for poetry. Plaschke is not writing poetry, no matter how much he wishes he was.

    My favorite poet is, of course, Shel Silverstein.
     
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    Maeda has a much better ERA than all those aces dumb plaschke mentioned.
    We might not have one if those aces but we have a legit #2.
     
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    Reddick is a good ball player and an impending free agent, would definitely be interested in him if Trayce keeps struggling
     
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    I'll greatly miss the defense. But his offense is bleh and he will struggle with hamstrings for the remainder of his days. Hunched over stance and two handed follow through all of a sudden? Can't get extension on anything other than hanging breaking balls. So I'm interested in the right trade.
     
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    Puig for Dee Gordon.
     
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    Our "legit #2" averages less than 6 innings per start.

    Shows how mediocre the rotation is.
     
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    I'm shocked at how they have continued to roll even after some sub par pitching outside of their top 2, including a disastrous bullpen and a lineup that has been crushed with injuries. That whole team is basically Cueto, Bumgarner, Pagan, Belt, Posey and Crawford. Hoping that now that the offense finally is showing signs of life, this Dodgers team can start to make up ground. Also, the Giants have had to have had the easiest fucking SOS thus far.
     
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    Yeah, it does.
    It looks OK, on paper, which it all is in reality, because of CK and valiant work the majority of the time by the bp.
    We do have 27 come from behind victories, maybe 28...so even with the often flaccid turns, the O does get it done. Of course, we would be way closer with amy kind of consistency.
    I was thinking, comparing the SFCS to us, being that we are + 11 over .500, why are they off the charts?
    Looking at their lineup, and of course, factoring the Giant Head, Bochy, in, I can only come up with...
    Cueto.
    Cueto puts them over the top.
    Our two is not equal to their two. Simple really.
    Oh, and we turn into a girly team when we play them...that is part of it, too.
     
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    Since coming back from his injury, Puig has been really really good. Not just that he is getting more hits, but his plate discipline has been drastically better. In the first 53 games he played, his K/BB ratio was almost 5-1, since he came back it is basically 1-1 in 19 games. 19 games don't make a season, but it would be nice if he truly is turning the corner at the same time as AGon and Grandal seemingly are. This offense succeeded the first part of the season basically on the backs of Seager, Utley and Thompson. With Thompson coming back down to earth and Utley's numbers not being overly fantastic as he's become mostly a singles hitter, I would love to see the team try to add a bat for LF and try to find someone to be an upgrade at 2B.
    There are not many options out there, but I think an interesting team to take a look at could be the Angels. Kole Calhoun is a solid player and they have a guy in Yunel Escobar that could play 2B and is having his second very good season in a row with the bat. I would be interested to see what the team could offer up for Calhoun/Escobar that could maybe entice a deal. Calhoun is one of their best assets and he would allow them to nab some more talent to surround Trout with. A line up of Escobar, Calhoun, Seager, Turner, AGon, Grandal, Puig, Pederson would be a pretty solid 1-8. Even if the Angels are not interested in moving Calhoun, I would like to see the club target Escobar as he seems like he could come somewhat cheap and is an upgrade even if he is a piece of shit.
     
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    Going back to the Puig murmurs. it is interesting that they are rumored to be looking to trade him right now. Yes his value is going up, however it is at a time where he is the only decently performing OF'er on the roster, DL or not. Thompson, SVS and Keykay are all in funks right now or this season, Pederson and Ethier are both hurt, Howie has done better with the bat, but he is an adventure with the glove. The only reason trading him would make any sense is if the club has 1 if not two deals lined up to get OF depth back in separate trades. I realize that he is a lightning rod for attention, but the fact of the matter is that he has been the teams best all around OF'er this season and as the roster is currently constructed, will continue to be. Would guess that Puig would the centerpiece for the team to acquire a true #2 behind Kershaw then they take on a Bruce/Braun and/or Beltran.
     
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    Beltran's knee is limiting him to DH and it could be permanent.
     
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