DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS thread

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  1. Dodgers99

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    Said it back in early November (when re-signing Kershaw caused a fuss for some), will say it again, no team acquires players (especially in the off-season) for just the postseason.

    However, I'll humor it, who is this perfect player with a great postseason resume, that suits your standards? And it better be pretty freakin great, because you've got a serious case of SSS theatre.
     
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    And I said it this morning..he's good, but not that damn good. Certainly not the most ideal addition if CLE wants a big spec package in return.

    Kersh got 1 additional year. Obviously, his market was meh, as it should have been.
     
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    went to one game last year and my cable is cut so meh, as much as it pisses me off i already vote w my dollars
    my WS was free so i will keep on the lookout for freebies
    my point was that the OF has some guys who deserve to get a look and kemp and pig were sort of clogging that up
    i personally would have kept Pig and if things weren't going right dumped him half way through 19
    thought wood was worth more too
    but thats done now and the teams moving on
    is a 300m deal for one guy the best way to go forward? idk maybe it is
    could also be a massive albatross hung around the neck of the team
    is he going to fit in on the team or be a pain in the ass?
    as far as verlander over darvish i think a lot of us would have taken darvish at the time
    all i know is the team is still really strong and maybe that money/talent can be spent better elsewhere
    i truly believe darvish and or machado would have been signed if the outcome/performance was different
    i remember the days of piazza, sheffield and park what a bunch of prima donna fucks
    i hated that and wished to see the kids compete
    not much different now and i'll be fine either way tbh
    not spending $50 for parking no matter who the guys on the field are
     
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    Be that as it may, I would just assume the team be owned and operated by more of a fan type than a fund manager. Let GuGGs "Ingest" by shorting the shit out some biotech company no one will GAF about the next day and leave our team alone.

    Yeah, I get it and I'm venting but still, here it is......
     
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    Kluber has been one of the best pitchers in baseball year in and year out since 2014. Stuff has basically been the same since that point with little to no diminishing. The dude would and should cost a lot. I think the Dodgers were in on him if they coulda paired him with Kipnis and his bad contract to make the return less. Now that it would likely take Verdugo+ probably means that the Dodgers are out at this point. I think they are going to try to hold on to Verdugo for now and continue moving other pieces around. The loss of Puig means they need a RF'er and Verdugo is well equipped for the position.
     
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    So ultimately, LAD is out on sending multiple top specs for a 33yr old arm that's been showing cracks as the season grows later? Sounds good. I don't think it's a coincidence that CLE went to the team that forked over $75MM for a James Shields that was clearly leaking oil when it mattered most. Clearly, Preller covets those guys. I mean, $75MM..that's enough to highlight and target a big spec package from them, for sure.

    I don't want LAD operating like Cincy..both taking on money and sending top specs for an overall solid yet unspectacular addition. LAD has MLB level depth to draw from for a trade..for one, a guy like Muncy should hold value for a CLE team that shipped off Encarnacion this offseason and also lost Alonso. If the Indians don't want to be reasonable..fuck'em. They can continue on under the boot of those 3 big market powers in the AL. Or they can be reasonable and maybe get their hands on some combination of Muncy, Joc, Taylor, Hill and/or Ryu along with maybe one notable spec and another lower level guy. CLE can be opportunistic here and strengthen themselves that way..would be smart of them. But then they haven't won a WS since 1948 for a reason. LAD is out here trying to clear out MLB level depth, not put a huge dent in their farm.
     
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    Wonder if the CHISox have a little under the radar advantage in signing Machado since the Indians traded his brother in-law Yonder Alonso over to them.
    Would be pretty funny if the Indians ultimately helped Machado land with the CHISox and they eventually sprint past them in the division
     
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    Grandal was clearly gassed last postseason, and the year before he was gassed and injured. He got hot at the start of last year and we kept throwing him out there in the middle of the lineup - partly out of necessity. If we sign him we need to stay disciplined and cap all catchers at 80 games. I wouldn’t even mind an extreme 60-game cap behind the plate, covering the other 42 games with a mix of Rocky and a mid-summer drink for Smith. Giving Barnes and Grandal a few starts at 2B and 1B to get ABs.

    Offensively, Grandal can be as good as any catcher when he is on, plus he knows our pitching staff. He’s not the worst option by any means.
     
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    If Yasmani signs up for this plan, I just would like to see some of the offers he's been getting..just for the lulz
    Going back into FA next year, coming off that plan..Lol
     
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    Yeah, the FO not getting a capable backup catcher down the stretch fucking blew and there were multiple factors for why the club had to keep throwing Grandal out there. The fact early was that the club needed his hot bat with Seager & Turner out and us falling into a deeper and deeper hole. Late in the season it was Barnes never figuring it out and the club needing all hands on deck to try to win the division. With that said, Grandal has never been able to come close to replicating his numbers in the post season to what he does in the regular season. The thing about streaky hitters is that they need to hit to stay hot. So the considerable amount of off days can really throw off a guys rhythm and I think that is the biggest culprit to Grandal's struggles. I would be fine taking Grandal back on a 1 year deal as I feel it gives us the security blanket in case Barnes does not bounce back(I think he will, somewhat) and bridges the gap to the young guys without costing anything. Who knows, maybe he FINALLY puts it all together in the postseason too... doubtful, but maybe he realizes the financial incentive it would mean if he had a good post. It still does not sound like there is any chance that he comes back, there was a report just before Christmas that he has at least one 4 year offer in hand(probably the Phillies) and could be close to a decision.
     
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    i've watched quite a few catchers catch and ballplayers play but i've never seen the wheels come off like it does for spazmani
    being gassed and in need of a rest is one thing, forgetting how to catch baseballs?
    i think its more than just being tired tbh
    he's got something else going on in his psyche and it seems like he gave it to Jansen
    looks like a straight grip to me
     
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    I agree that him falling apart behind the plate last year was a fucking catastrophe, however it seemed to be an epidemic. The Sox, Yanks and Astros catchers were all fucking up enough that it caught the attention of some analysts. Maldonado in Houston got berated by their coach in the middle of a game after he continued to fuck up. It was only such a spectacle for us as those guys were not really expected to be major contributors in the first place, while our catcher was a key cog in our lineup.
     
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    Financial incentive for Yasmani from having a good postseason? Wouldn't be too SSS?
    Basically my point with Kluber. Postseason isn't the be all/end all, but to act as though it won't even be considered..come now. Especially when it comes to a 33 yr old arm.

    Yasmani better fire his agent if he's down to options where he's considering starting 80 games on a 1 year deal
     
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    If that's true and he does wimper back here out of options, just to collect less $$$ than his QO was to play in half the games, chances are he'll become a very bitter cancer in the clubhouse, despite making millions of dollars to work part time.

    Tough call.
     
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    Dallas Keuchel still seeking a 5yr deal, wants his James Shields stimulus package. Somebody has his money..Preller
     
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    That shit spreads.
    We can more afford to go with Barnes and someone like AJ Ellis or Lucroy or even throw your lot in with the rookie Smith halfway through the season than have to endure another Spazmani moment.

    No more Kemp, Puig... Spaz seems like a logical no go culturewise.
    Its like they are trimming guys who are, have been, or will be primadonnas or me first vs team first players or cancers or guys that get the yips or even super streaky/hard luck type of guys because all of that shit can spread.
     
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    Well said my brother in blue. Cancer sucks Cancer kills when it spreads

    This why this year we lost due to cancer and idiot Roberts trying to win pulling magic out of hat
     
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    For the simple fact that I understood what he was saying
     
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    RUMORS: Grandal, Mets, Dodgers, Tigers, Castellanos
    by Connor Byrne | MLB Trade Rumors — 34 minutes ago

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    The Mets found a veteran catcher in free agency earlier this month when they signed Wilson Ramos to a two-year, $19MM guarantee. However, the club had been willing to pay a much steeper price for the premier backstop on the open market, Yasmani Grandal, whom it offered a four-year, $60MM contract, Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times reports. Grandal rejected the Mets’ proposal, leading them to sign Ramos for far less.

    The Mets’ offer to Grandal was in the ballpark of the four-year, $64MM prediction MLBTR made for accomplished catcher entering the offseason. Of course, because Grandal declined the Dodgers’ one-year, $17.9MM qualifying offer after the season, the team that signs him will have to pay more than just money to secure his services. In the Mets’ case, adding Grandal would have meant surrendering their second-highest draft pick and $500K in international bonus pool space in 2019.

    Aside from the Mets, the 30-year-old Grandal has also drawn reported interest from the Dodgers, Reds, Angels and White Sox this winter. Other than the White Sox, who traded Omar Narvaez and signed James McCann, those teams haven’t addressed the catcher position in any meaningful way since last season ended. As such, it stands to reason the Dodgers, Reds and Angels could still be among the teams in on Grandal. The Dodgers are “unlikely” to re-sign Grandal, though, unless he unexpectedly settles for a short-term contract, according to Castillo.

    In the event the Dodgers do bring back Grandal, he’d give them another righty-capable batter, which is something the lefty-heavy club is reportedly seeking after trading away outfielders Yasiel Puig and Matt Kemp. Grandal is one of several such hitters who have been connected to the Dodgers this offseason, with Tigers outfielder Nicholas Castellanos also among those in the mix. But the Dodgers have found the Tigers’ asking price to be prohibitive, per Castillo, who hears that Detroit initially requested either young outfielder Alex Verdugo or catcher prospect Keibert Ruiz from Los Angeles.

    Unsurprisingly, the Dodgers balked at giving up either Verdugo or Ruiz for the defensively challenged Castellanos, who’s only under control for another year (at a projected $11.1MM). The 22-year-old Verdugo ranks as the Dodgers’ No. 1 prospect and baseball’s 32nd-best farmhand at MLB.com, and could be a prominent member of their 2019 outfield or a major piece in an offseason trade revolving around someone more valuable than Castellanos. Ruiz, 20, is the Dodgers’ second-ranked prospect at MLB.com, which places him 39th overall. Along with fellow catcher prospect Will Smith, Ruiz could be part of the long-term solution for the club behind the plate.
     
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